This device is the real self-running overunity?

[markdansie]

@Larry
Wise words. As far as the scope goes it has been unused for a while so it is of little value to me. I was going to give it away. I think an RPM meter would be essential.
I have travelled the world and seen many devices that for whatever reasonwere not self runners. Often (more often than not0 it was because of mis measurement, self delusional or some external force (like hand). I have also run into many scam artists. I like Wendel for his perserverance and passion so if it helps him or gives his some pleasure out of figuring how it works then its worth it.
I actually give him more credability than steorn
I think we all remeber Mylow last year.
In saying all that he has some original ideas..if not simplistic and I do feel fuether investigation worthwhile. I have written to him privately and feel he is a decent and honourable person. he has forwarded some information howlong the first video model did run and my aim is to see if that can be reproduced.
i will not be rushing into this and many here who kno me know I am the biggest sckeptic there is. However in the early stages I always like to give the beifit of the doubt.
One thing he is not is a scam artist and I have run into far to many of them over the years..often at other people great expense.
Thanks and I do enjoy your posts
Kind Regards
Mark

[LarryC]

@Mark,

I was somewhat aware of your good work for the OU cause from your previous post on other subjects. Glad you're still doing it and wish the best for your success. I live in Slidell, La., north of New Orleans. I'm not a traveler like you, but let me know if I can be of assistance in my area. 

Your comments give me additional confidence that this is not a intentional scam.

I agree with the non-spin using N/S head/tail replications of others, as I have also tried. But it seems that we should attempt additional spin replications, but with a unit that allows a magnetic pressure bounce. I have no neos that qualify (center holes), but I'll look into getting some. helicoil suggestions may be helpful with this test.

If anybody else has the right neos and can replicate, please let me know.

Regards, Larry

 

[scotty1]

My experiments certainly made him mad....He sent me a nasty letter 
He claims to be a genius on you tube...and we don't understand how his mind works, ect ect....see his comment reply's to people....not so nice at all.

To let the magnet spin you will need to let it move off its axis....maybe his can move a little, but the magnet will still not spin if it can vibrate up and down at all so there is still a stalemate there.
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I have made a test rotor that has the magnets mounted on small D/C motors set into the ends of the rotor.
Theoretically I could put wires on the motors and slip rings on the shaft....then I could mount a coil and spin up the rotor.
If the D/C motors made some current then we could tell that the magnets were spinning. But I don't think they would.

I'm an Engineering Patternmaker by trade so I can knock up models fairly quickly, but in this case I have many doubts.
Scotty.

[conradelektro]

Unfortunately I see again the well known pattern in this case:

- no self runner
- tall claims by the inventor
- mysteries instead of clear answers

I also see the well know psychological pattern that the inventor does not know himself whether he wants to give the idea away or to become rich by protecting its alledged secrets. Like in so many cases the inventors "will" and "wishes" seem to change from day to day, but drift torwards "I do not give away my hard worked for secrets for free". This keeps up the illusion and gives a purpose in life.

The folks who communicated with the inventor for sure asked the straight forward question "Does the machine run two hours without a battery?" ("Closed loop without a battery, yes or no?") and did not get a clear answer?

It is also strange (and telling) that the inventor does not defining clearly where the poles are on his little disk magnets and everybody has to speculate.

It seems to be the age old missconception that 25 Volt spikes on the pick up coils deliver more energy than the continuous current from the 6 Volt battery into the DC motor turning the machine.

My comments do not help and sound pessimistic, I just wanted to say what I felt after going through this thread. It is so sad to see it all over again.

May be, the folks who can talk or write to him just ask this two simple questions again in a very friendly and clear way:

1) Does the machine run longer than an hour without any battery (closed loop)?

2) Please explain the poles on your magnets, specially on the little (may be rotating) disk magnet or magnets passing by the pick up coils or coils?

If there is no useful answer forthcoming, everything humanly possible has been done. Game over!

It is very nice to give the inventor a scope, why not. From my own experience I know that using a scope needs a lot of learning. So I see no immediate benefit besides charity and a way to open up more conversations with the inventor (in case someone has the patience of a Ghandi).

Greetings, Conrad

[gauschor]

It seems to be the age old missconception that 25 Volt spikes on the pick up coils deliver more energy than the continuous current from the 6 Volt battery into the DC motor turning the machine.

That is my fear as well, when I saw the demonstration with the voltmeter, that it might only be voltage spikes which are of no use at all  . Well he says on the very first video when he starts to spin this device by hand that the rotor "does not choke down". He had connected the output of the coil to a rectifier and then back to the motor. Yet it seemed to me that rotor was slowing down slowly by watching the white spot on the rotor.

Since he does not ask for money however and he offers to invite anyone to inspect this device, he seems very honest. I guess we need some replication to verify :s

edit: I wrote him an email, including the 2 questions posted above