The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

[ZathEros]

Chet,
I have a 4' piece of clear plastic pipe I picked up to make HHO electrolizers with. I had the idea some time ago to pick up some stainless wire, to make an antenna that would fit inside the length of the tube. Wind as much wire as I could, to make it close to a 1/4 wavelength or wavelength as possible.
Then plug the tube and fill with saltwater. Any gas production could be observed easily.
I have been collecting various radio gear to proceed with this.
I have a Kenwood TS-680 that will put out ~60 watts across most of the ham bands. I picked up a kit from a guy in Dayton to build a 300 watt class E amplifier that will tune from 14 Mhz to 30 Mhz.

The frequencies that Kanzius  listed were not "magic"  or proprietary to his success, they were simply frequencies that fall into the FCC ISM list, and were available for use for experimentation. 

The magic lies in resonance, finding the fundamental frequency of resonance or harmonic overtone of the saltwater is the key.
I remember reading somewhere that the freq. Kanzius was using for the saltwater burn was 13.52 Mhz But I can't find that reference now.

Food for thought-
Zatheros

[wojwrobel]

hello

I would like to add one more patent that describes in slow motion what really happens in this kind of water splitting

here is patent http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20060315&CC=CN&NR=1745884A&KC=A

its in chinese but in atachments you will find translation, really intresting !

cheers from poland
wojsciech

[ramset]

Gentlemen,
This feels like a good day for Open source research!
And A better day for our planet!

Thank you for the info I will be studying it [as I am sure others will]
Got family coming today !!
Very Cool.
Chet

[StihlWoody]

So looking into those patents (PLEEESE!!! MY EYES ARE BLEEDING!!!) I find amongst the legal bullcrap that this is relatively all saying the exact same thing.

They are all proof that AlaskaStar/Chris Hunter was right all along, and it's easy like Oswald described in the beginning of this thread with that Sodium Formula.

So after all that, where does one begin?

I looked at Alaska's circuit, he includes a Xenon Bulb.  WHY?

All I can surmise here is that he's doing capacitive discharge through the coil, and needed someplace for that energy to go, instead of displacing heat.

At 5 volts...even 12 volts...can't do much for shit until you do something like cap discharge to fire something like a flash-bulb.

Am I missing something here?

Did he use JUST ONE of these circuits, or did he use several of them staged out to put in a seemingly constant flow?

Maybe his wattage readings were wrong, because when you charge a cap, it can take a while, and the draw is constant...until it's full, but when that sumbitch releases all that energy into a primary coil, you can get one helluva spark that'll knock your pisser into next week.

Can you tell I had a 'hair raising' experience here?

StihlWoody

[dutchy1966]

I looked at Alaska's circuit, he includes a Xenon Bulb.  WHY?

StihlWoody

Hi Stihl,

I remember reading somewhere it is just a protection for the mosfet or transistor.....

regards Dutchy

Btw Reading/Studying WO 2010/066025 A1 at the moment. Seems very related!