Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

[sutra]

hi guys,

YES, is a matter of experimenting as soon as I finish with the building of my 20KVDC "pump" I'll try to submit the cell to some electroshock.
I know, probably I'll end up with free chlorine  fuming out the thing but anywhere I checked, the piezoelectric materials are exposed to direct high voltages,

I've seen an article of early age research on Rochelle Salt frequency response but I have to find that out again in the net, meanwhile, here is some good reading about piezoelectiricy and the manufactoring of piezo ceramics and actuators.

http://www.morganelectroceramics.com/pdfs/tp217.pdf
http://www.americanpiezo.com/piezo_theory/index.html
http://www.physikinstrumente.com/en/products/prdetail.php?sortnr=400600.20
http://www.integritytechnology.net/Resonators/Resonator-Technote-1.pdf
http://aml.seas.ucla.edu/research/areas/piezoelectric/marie/Piezoelectric%20overview%20v2005.pdf
http://www.morganelectroceramics.com/pdfs/tp217.pdf
http://books.google.it/books?id=rcrGlrguj1YC&pg=PA2095&lpg=PA2095&dq=poling+treatment+rochelle+salt&source=web&ots=mHPP446b6_&sig=JlkFOYHTXerNhvs7mImVfR_V-hc&hl=it&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PPA2096,M1
http://www.answers.com/topic/piezoelectricity
http://www.resonancepub.com/piezoele.htm

Pulsed electricity could reduce electro dissociation of the substances involved.


Cheers

[Anothertruthfinder]

 Hi all  , bit of a newbie here but ive been following many different fe/ae threads and thought i'd let everyone know of my dabblings in this particular thread, i apologize if this unoriginal or not really any use to anyone but i thought the concept made me prick my ears up a little hehe
i made a series array of 7 little cells - made from - here's the crazy part, 'catsan' cat litter, yes cat litter! a little bicarbonate of soda and tap water mixed into a smooth paste (crushing up the litter in a bag with a hammer beforehand sorry) into some empty small round glass nightlights (just over an inch tall), i put a half inch strip of aluminium running down the side of it leaving a long top taper for contacting and i cut a 3mm thick 'rod' of copper again leaving room to contact at the ends outside the glass. The copper is as you might have guessed + and the alu -.

results
per cell - .56/.65 volts
series array - 4.07 volts (fluctuant .05 -+) open circuit voltage
current - 2-12 ma
its currently lighting an led near full brightness (4hrs) - going to leave it going constantly and let you all know the results
any info i will try and give, i will try and give!



p.s. i'm aka - eel

[ian middleton]

G'day all,

@Anothertruthfinder:  Excellent work there dude, I mean, having a nickname of eel with sure save us some typing. 

Welcome aboard and thanks for your post. You will find in earlier posts in this thread that kitty litter was also trialled and then refined to bentonite clay. My results using the clay were pretty dismal but then again I did not use bicarb in the mix.
Of interest would be the voltage and current of your cells when they are totally dry. You might find the current drops faster than the stockmarket.

Also, why did you decide to use kitty litter?

Anyway as I said, welcome and any input will be greatly recieved.

regards  Ian

[jeanna]

Hi all  , bit of a newbie here but ive been following many different fe/ae threads and thought i'd let everyone know of my dabblings in this particular thread,

p.s. i'm aka - eel

Welcome and
Thanks ATF eel,

I was thinking of retrying this only to put a load onto it to see if that helps. I didn't realize the importance of putting the load to it until recently.

I also used kaolin clay once from the health food store and then I bought the kitty litter. I also had to hammer it to powder it.  lotsa fun 

I used it exactly as you did with the pure stuff. (I used sodium carbonate not bicarbonate on all of them also.)

It turned into a very fine powder. In fact they all did.

Later with the kitty litter, I added sand then sand and cement (clinker)

It is such an interesting thing to do, but, mine all ate the alu terminals before they were dry.

My first suggestion therefore is to choose a different metal for your alu terminal.
(I am not suggesting that you take this apart. )

I am very curious. As I said, I never put a load on any of mine. I just recently learned that this is likely to enhance the result.

thank you,

jeanna

[Koen1]

Yes, welcome ATF / Eel

It's always nice to have more people in our select club of
experimenters!

As Ian already mentioned, your success with kitty litter is not all that
surprising.
But it is great to see that you managed to make a working array
of bentonite-family Cells!
Ok, output is still very low hey, but that's a thing we're all still working on,
so you're right up there with the rest of us!