Relative Permittivity of Water

[Torana]

...OK maybe thats not the page I was after...

http://www.climtechsolutions.com/?page_id=3/bob-boyce/the-august-d9-bob-boyce-update-for-the-bob-boyce-team/page-1

http://www.climtechsolutions.com/?page_id=3/bob-boyce/page-1

This is a great example where a genuine team hit a project and shows the money invested , NO different from Stans Tech Brief and the mountains of money people throw at trying to replicate WFC .   

**$ 3000 **  and these are guys who know what theyre doing , so imagine someone who has no idea and theyre burning money that they actually need instead of building a door stop.

Ian and his bunch have monthly meetings in Melbourne and are not hobbiest they are genuine researchers.

[Torana]

Stan= "when your tuning into the resonance and when you hit in resonance under this condition ,then the water molecule just falls apart"

NO , it doesnt, the Z machine uses water because it doesnt fall apart under huge stress, single firing , NOT resonance , for a reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_machine

What about the dielectric properties of paraffin= 1.9 -2.5 , mineral oil =2.2 , silicon oil = 2.2 -2.7 , olive oil = 3.11 ,Castor oil =4.7 ,alcohol =16 -31 ,acetone =21.3, methanol =22 ....etc.

All these figures are well below 78.54 @ 25C specific ,so why not lower the bar and aim low .
Any one who can be bothered will find the obvious = NO BREAKDOWN OF DIELECTRIC in an AC resonant circuit.

Water intrinsic properties = permittivity + resistivity , the shunt R does not go away, and Power dissipates in R.

Gating is yet another one of Stans tricks , IF people were honest about it , no one has a genuine reason for why it is at all neccessary other than Stan said so.
*Stans word ?   he was definitely an artist.

With all caps , max Ohms is achieved with zero frequency .
1 uf @ 10 khz = 16 ohms,
1 uf @ 1 hz  = 159 K ohms
1 uf @ zero freq DC = open circuit = max ohms
* opens circuit without breaking it.

http://www.66pacific.com/calculators/xc_calc.aspx

Z machine and lasers use single shot where max ohms are and max charging current = power.

http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=vn0-Z6cLphgC&pg=PA86&lpg=PA86&dq=blue+laser+water+capacitor&source=bl&ots=DzZqxmmXyZ&sig=Niino6LB6H5whesWkrb9ipcN20I&hl=en&ei=Myk-ToWGMcOHrAfax6ztDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ6AEwAA

Excimer laser,
note page 87 " just before the water ionizes and loses its insulating properties"

Heading ; Beyond solar cells and IC = "...manipulate chemical reactions with light..."

[Torana]

Stans Denver 1997 video.

DENVER 27:21 = " Creativity comes from God , if its beneficial for mankind and I just simply asked a prayer to God , if you show me a way , I love my country , its the greatest country in the world , Ill do anything you want me to do "

JOB 27:21 = "The east wind carrieth him away , and he departeth: and as a storm hurleth him out of his place.

JOB 27:8 = "For what is the hope of the hypocrite ,though he hath gained , when God taketh away his soul ?"
      27:9 = " Will God hear his cry when trouble cometh upon him? "

WHOA ....

Stan did his best to stamp out any creativity in everyone else by selling misinfo and avoiding questions .

http://www.free-energy-info.com/P8.pdf

http://www.free-energy-info.com/MeyerData.pdf

One for the price of 2 ,  "through the eyes of a Bussinessman" thats $70 US

Nothing stan wrote is useable , FIG 1-1 AA circuit is BOGUS , 8XA circuit is BOGUS.
Eugene Mallove wouldve made mince meat out of Stan if allowed to question Stan in full.
But...then who would listen?
Stans supporters cant actually pin point exactly ,what it is that they support

[CompuTutor]

You really have been on quite a walk-a-bout
for quite a long time now haven't you...

Have you convinced yourself yet ?

[Torana]

Convince myself of?
Can you see what actually unfolded?      The facts dont change for anyone.
Have you studied stans info?  Did you fall for it?

I first heard of stan in the 90s but like anyone else back then who had any tech knowledge, once the info is read properly and thoroughly, its RUBBISH!
Im not the first to discover that fact, alot of people walked away from stan back then.
IF I started a thread hammering stan , Id be banned at day one.  I still havent hammered stan, he had full control of his words, he wrote them.
Minde4000 pushed the button and BINGO! great timing.
nowhere have I doubted stans invention, the thread is about permittivity of water, which is fundamental to a water capacitor.

Water is not a simple subject, there is no   "simple stick"**
http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/sitemap.html

A cell is not a capacitor , its funny how stan(WFC) meyers shifted everyones focus to capacitance, theres no mention of cell function in his info or videos .(no cap function either)
Ive done testing in the 90s , a water cap does not produce gas, nor should it, a cell does produce gas and so it should.

No where have I discouraged anyone, I tried to help H2Opower , he did not like that flavour at all.
NOTE; nobody else offered, which says alot ,obviously slipped past the sharpest eyes.(HOW?)
He wants 863.94 ohms for 11 series caps, why 863.94?
863.94 / 11 = 78.54 ohms,  that is the crippling effect of stan meyers.

He said it was the dielectric value of water.
Is that a fact in science, chemistry, physics, EE or electronics?
NO , its a meaningless figure and irrelevant.

Im not trying to convince anyone, nor discourage anyone.  Whats the benefit?
If anything ,Its a heads up.
Obviously your paying attention, theres a few hits, lets be honest , 88 of those are yours.

Notice I havent ripped anyone down