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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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see3d

Quote from: mondrasek on September 06, 2012, 05:34:10 PM

What would you propose that could fit inside the Pod that could be turned on externally, sealed, etc?  I was thinking a surface mount LED with a tiny JT and battery on a board that could fit through the 1/4" hole in the bottom of my Pod (before sealing).  But how to turn it on and off?

You KNOW we can't use wireless power transmission for reasons you have shown in other threads!
Why does your pod have to be sealed on top?  Could you have an open hole on top? 
Could you use a read switch to turn it on with a small magnet that you set on top of the pod if sealed, or just a small switch on top?
Shine a light down from the top and just have a small piece of mirror at a 45 deg angle inside the pod.

I think it would be more fun to have  a reflective 45 deg cone inside the pod that shines light all around from top illumination.  So many possibilities!  ;-)

LarryC

Attached is the Simple Zed to Zed Flow.

No Flow - Valve closed
Free Equalization Flow - Valve open
Hydraulic Assist - Since the Zed water columns start equal, the input cost will be to change the actual Water Head between Zed's from 0 to 3.4 PSI. Edit: OU out the wazoo, for those who understand.

I used 8.4 as specified in Reply 963 by Wayne:
'Our pressure is:
Minimum 5.0,  8.4 max, and 6.7 post free flow.
Since the true input cost to each side it the diffirence between these pressures and the Max - this is very important.'



Regards, Larry

PS: The actual system doesn't transfer the water, since each retains it's own water supply. It just transfer the force to move each Zed's water supply.

mondrasek

Quote from: mrwayne on September 05, 2012, 07:11:19 PM
p.s. if you try to stroke to far - overflow will continue to be an issue.

I will say that I can confirm the overflow issue.  I am not 100% sure of the cause, but it could be, as you say, due to stroking too far.

It is definitely another weird phenomenon that I would not have predicted from my "understanding" of how the system should act. 

I understand better now why Webby has been playing with his embodiment of a ZED for so long and still reporting new observations.

To all:  I will not say a ZED is OU or not.  But it is definitely a very unique construction that exhibits behavior that I could not have predicted.  Take that as you will.

M.

mondrasek

Quote from: see3d on September 06, 2012, 05:51:07 PM
Why does your pod have to be sealed on top?  Could you have an open hole on top? 
Could you use a read switch to turn it on with a small magnet that you set on top of the pod if sealed, or just a small switch on top?
Shine a light down from the top and just have a small piece of mirror at a 45 deg angle inside the pod.

I think it would be more fun to have  a reflective 45 deg cone inside the pod that shines light all around from top illumination.  So many possibilities!  ;-)

Heh!  My limitations are only due to scale of the system and technique as far as I know!   So you are right, D, that there are other ways that I have not even considered.  And that is EXACTLY why I would toss such a wonderful idea out for group input.

Seriously, things have again become, well, a bit serious, on this thread.  So I'd like us all to lighten up a bit and have some fun.  Please ignore if you feel you must.

M.

wildew

Quote from: mondrasek on September 06, 2012, 07:19:16 PM
Seriously, things have again become, well, a bit serious, on this thread.  So I'd like us all to lighten up a bit and have some fun.

Excellent idea M. !

I'm getting close to having an assembled "something" to play with and M's and Webby's experiences using water head / flow appear to be similarly challenging. See3d's piston that can be better controlled is more in line with Wayne's bag system but I'm at a bit of a loss trying to come up with a garage / shop solution. It does need to be measurable and that's making me think harder. Ideas?

Dale