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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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Doug1

The 08 pat does not support the idea of flux redirection nor does the design of the device. There would be too much leakage of flux for it to be effective. Sharp turns just don't cut the mustard. If there were any critical effects of sending the flux around the outside frame it would have been round with no edges or corners.A wire core or flat material wrapped in a circle would have been the depiction in that time period.

hanon

Quote from: Doug1 on October 09, 2013, 07:17:23 AM
The 08 pat does not support the idea of flux redirection nor does the design of the device. There would be too much leakage of flux for it to be effective. Sharp turns just don't cut the mustard. If there were any critical effects of sending the flux around the outside frame it would have been round with no edges or corners.A wire core or flat material wrapped in a circle would have been the depiction in that time period.

Which patent are you referring as "the 08 patent? The patent from 1908, or the patent No. 30378? In any of both cases the drawing it is just an sketch. Also in both patents is written that the drawing is just to understand the concept but different configurations may be implemented under the same concept.

About patent 30378, the close external magnetic circuit which surround all the electromagnets must have the objetive of keeping the magnetic flux into it as in any other generator. What else if not? .  I won´t take as an important feature the detail that the drawing has sharp edges.

hanon

Hi all,

Please check some very interesting posts about Figuera´s generator in the forum at EnergeticForum done in these last days

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/12439-re-inventing-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-19.html

Please post your comments about the proposal discussed in that forum.

Regards

Doug1

Still not done getting all the reference materials together to support my explanation.I think I will stick with this forum though nothing personal. An effective machine will take a lot of material mass to be large enough to use for primary power supply. I already figured out how large a generator in a IC form I would need to replace the grid would have to equal a 59hp gen to safely cover peak usage safely with out over straining. Need to learn an entirely new math as well and replicate some of the old 1800's test equipment. Today I am helping someone replace their plumbing and going over my own heating system.Cold weather is moving in fast.

stupify12

Hanon:cheers:  This just for you and everyone. I know you have a hard time deciphering the Clemente Figuera's Egg of Columbus.

I have attached a schematic below, this should be wound on a annular ring/ferrite toroid for better performance.:blowout:

L1,L2,L3,L4 is the starting of the winding of this 4 coils on the toroid,the winding start is CW facing to side of toroid the winding should be going inside to your chest- like the winding is coming from below hole of toroid to exit on top hole of the toroid going inside to your chest.

On the schematic you will see that the 4 wound coils is group in two pairs. L1 and L2- The start of L2=CW is connected to the end winding of L1=CCW.

You will understand Tesla's way of winding is simple, its only a persons mind that made it difficult to understand Tesla. I already told people here that Tesla intended to leave this patents and illustration for all(average minded) people.

L3 and L4- The start of L3=CW is connected to the end winding of L4=CCW.

Simple as that. All four wound coils should start with CW. About the magnetic field and magnetic flow you only need a compass and voltage supply test experiment.

The Two Primaries function like a flip flop, when the L1 and L2 is ON-Maximum Field on Generator, the L3 and L4 is OFF- Neutral Field on Generator. When L3 and L4 is ON, L1 and L2 is OFF. The secondary are all wound starting CW, its a matter of choice how you connect the Secondary like series or parallel.:thinking:

This machine is powered with 2 Phase Alternating Current- which is actually a DC Magneto Generator Tesla converted to perform on AC with the used of genius Commutator design. That is the reason people for 135 years dont take interest on such beautiful design, for they dont know what is the lacking key to such beast. The patent:confused:  will be hard to decipher if no one will guide you how to understand such beast machine. I have already given to you the simplest path to such beast machine:eek: . You can build it like a size:D  of your home. LOL:rofl:

Once you understand this Egg of Columbus you will understand all patents of Clemente Figuera in a simplest form, You will also find which is lacking and the real operation and function of such machine. Clemente Figuera drawed the illustration on a different ways for confusion.:v-peace:

Dont forget to take credit for Nikola Tesla:hug: . This winding configuration is the same with the Tesla Bifilar Pancake when you deeply understand this winding configuration.:notworthy:

@Everyone :notworthy:  you can design a simple Flip Flop/4017 + H Bridge just for testing for all to replicate this machine.

The patent below is the same on the schematic . Figure 2 and Figure 3.
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-390,413-electrical-distribution

Meow:rofl: