Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[madddann]

Hello Hanon!

Well I think you remember Woopy's replication, here he showed the signals from the comutator:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/12439-re-inventing-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-2.html#post213544

I think the two signals are the same as the output from my circuit (except the ripples) so we should be good, what do you think?

Dann

Madddann,

The sketch that you provided in post 1072 achieve a 180º unphase between the two signals.

Here we need a system which will provide 90º unphased signals, as the attached imagen shows:

EDIT: As your schematic shows always a positive signal maybe it is possible to be valid. While one intensity is increasing the other intensity is decreasing.OK.  90º unphase was defined for a rectified AC which is not the case for this circuit. I will think it again.

[hanon]

Hi Maddann,

I have re-think it and your proposal is perfect. It is what Figuera said: "while one current is increasing the other is decreasing". I have just one doubt: Can we mix an AC source with a DC source in the same circuit?

Also there is a page where a 3-phase AC current is transformed into a 2-phase AC current with 90º unphase using a "Scott Connection". I do not know what is that, but I put here the link in order that anyone may use it:

http://blog.aulamoisan.com/2013/05/conexion-scott-de-red-trifasica-red.html

Latter the 2-phase AC current may be rectified to get the required final signals.

I hope it helps

Regards

[verpies]

You just said it, half of the flux... so why the 8 vs 49 mA discrepancy with 20% voltage gain? Like 1+1=7? O-k...

Because magnetic flux is not electric current.  The relationship between them is square.
You are assuming a linear relationship between flux variations and current and then you are disproving that assumption (in English that debating technique even has a name: a "Straw Man").

Speaking of pulses, input and output have the same pulses, so the relation persists. And: the multimeter has an internal capacitor, otherwise the values would jump around.
At this point I leave it up to you to check it out, I will not go trough a trial of theoretical naysaying defense. Take it or leave it, AS IS. 

I am not going to leave you misleading other people, that average Volts * average Amps = average Watts, for non-DC waveforms.
Apparently you are very ignorant of power measuring principles.
If you want to play hard ball with me, you need to understand first, that I am not defending myself as you had implied above - I am attacking your power measuring ignorance.

Your claim that input and output are pulsed only proves that you don't have pure DC waveforms there.  It does not mean, that you cannot multiply average Volts by average Amps displayed by your averaging multimeter (with an averaging capacitor inside) to obtain average Watts.
The same voltage waveforms at the input and the output do not change anything.

For non-DC input waveforms you must multiply instantaneous voltage by instantaneous current and average these products to obtain average input power.  You can do the same for output power or you can use a shortcut and connect a sole non-inductive incandescent light bulb to the output and measure its brightness with a PV cell in a dark box (Grumage deftly calls it a "Wattbox").

There are other shortcuts you can use if your waveforms are periodic and of simple shapes, but not without knowing the phase relationship between the input voltage and input current waveforms (as well as the phase shift between the output voltage and output current waveforms).

I'd rather talk about the mechanisms, beyond institutional dogmata. 

Dogma is a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true.
Electric power measurement principles are as I described them not because of some authority, but they are that way because it is mathematically and experimentally demonstrateable that:
AVERAGE(V) * AVERAGE(I) <> AVERAGE(V*I)
Do you want me to show proof of the above inequality to you?

As far as mechanisms, I already wrote that a shorted winding excludes magnetic flux variations inside that winding. 
Magnetically this is almost the same as breaking off that leg of the core which has the shorted winding over it... and throwing it in the trash.
The lower the resistance of the shorted winding the more complete the flux variation exclusion.

In fact any resistive load placed across any secondary winding will cause partial expulsion of magnetic flux variations from under that winding.  If the flux cannot find an easy path (low reluctance) to close the flux loop then it will close through air.
This is illustrated by the diagram below.

[NRamaswami]

NRamaswami;

when i stated my cores were 1 1/2 inch i was referring to core thickness not length. i miss posted earlier as my Primary cores being 8" but their not their 5" long x 1 1/2 " thick x 1 1/2" wide and Secondaries are 3/4"x 1 1/2"x 5" this makes my Primary cores Twice as big as Secondaries.  with my cores being 1 1/2" wide  this leaves me a window of two inches to play with in Primary coil length. i'm starting at 1 inch but can expand to 2" if i want or need to.
oh i almost forgot my cores are I cores so they can be stacked together like Lego building blocks.(III) easy to add extra power if needed. end core will be C cores but inner cores are all I cores for easy expansion. Remember it's so easy a kid can build it.

Marathonman:

Then your Tesla calculations are also wrong. They would come only about .6 Tesla for a 307 turns and 12.5 cm I core  No core saturation and you may get good results. All the best.

[Jimboot]

Dogma is a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true.

I was brought up to believe every sunday we drank the blood of Jesus and ate his flesh. That's also dogma. Science is often proven wrong. I think that was the point Dieter was making. Dogma = closed mind.