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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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john-g

Hi

Here's a short video by me with some ideas about the Figuera patent.  I think that the flux was directed through either an air gap or solid block, and the pickup wires were contained within then.  The main flux could be either from an electro-magnet or  a permanent magnet, and that flux is shifted by a secondary electro-magnet which may form part of a tank circuit.  Anyway, that's my thoughts for what they are worth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoZCGjQI3Dw&feature=youtu.be

Rds

John

bajac

John,
I will watch the video after work. Thanks.

If you think about it, the progressive improvement of the Figuera's patents is very interesting. First, the rotating generator based on minimum armature reaction. Second, the over unity transformer type using very similar structure as the rotating one. And third, the induced iron core coil having strong armature (secondary coil) reaction separated by air gaps while using a scheme to control the direction of the reaction.

Figuera's last invention is an ingenious design that should have much higher power density than the devices shown in his two 1902 patents. Why is that? The issue with both 1902 patent is that whenever the number of turns increases to increase the power, the air gap must also be increased. In the 1908 device, the number of turns of the secondary can be increased without increasing the air gap distances. In addition, the induced power increases because of the iron core in the secondary. The issue with this device consists in diverting the strong reaction of the induced coils. The phases and magnitudes of the applied voltages must be just right. Based on my experience, if the reaction field starts opposing the primary field, it is difficult for the other primary field to pull it away.

What we need is a good two-phase voltage  generator for which the frequency, voltage, and phase angle can be adjusted. Once you have this source, you should be able to play with these voltage parameters and check for the performance of the device.

antijon

Hanon, it's just another way to build a generator. I made some images to show what I mean.

The first image is a typical generator. The rotor moves in one direction, so you can think- North is approaching one coil, South is approaching other coil. When the two coils are connected in series, they have a combined EMF. Or you can think, one coil is producing 120V, the other is producing 120V, and in series they produce 240V.

The second image shows two different ways to produce an EMF. The first is a North+South approaching, as in a normal generator. The second is North approaching+North departing. The EMF should be equal in both cases.

The third image I altered to include the South magnets. Imagine the South magnets move with the North magnets of the rotor. I added these mainly because others have mentioned the flux density, however, to simply envision a working model they're not necessary.

Oh, I want to add a link to another self-exciting motor/generator: http://pesn.com/2014/05/13/9602490_Video--Platinum-Invests_Building_Palladium-Magnetic-Generators/ Notice how the interior and exterior magnets move together. This is probably the same principle, and probably the same as a disk generator.

hanon

 Hi,

I have one doubt: Why the ironless generator in the picture below is not an overunity generator if it does not have a iron core to create drag in the movement? I am afraid that there is something else in Figuera rotary coil patent #30376 than a simple ironless generator.

As I posted a couple of months ago I think that the foundation of this rotary coil generator is that this generator have TWO POLES AT THE SAME DISTANCE TO THE CONDUCTOR.  But this is just my idea. In this case I don´t have arguments to support this interpretation. The conductor is just one single wire between two poles, and it creates a coil which is perpendicular to the magnetic field.

As I understand that patent, the effect created by one pole is compensated by the effect from the other pole. Let´s say that current is induced in the wire (as in any other generator). This current moves along the wire creating a magnetic field around the wire. Let´s say that the North pole attracts the magnetic field around the wire. The South pole will then repel the magnetic field around the wire. As the South pole  and the North pole are at the same distance to wire both effects will cancel each other (attraction and repulsion) and there won´t be any drag to the movement of the rotary coil.

If you want to test this Figuera patent I would just suggest to try first with Figuera´s original design. Do not try to invent without even building the basic patent device. Do not try to be more clever than Figuera. I guess you will lose against Figuera  :-[

I have devised a configuration of this patent where the net inducer magnetic field (B) which crosses the coil is null in the coil during a whole revolution of the generator (B_net=0). Therefore there is no induction due to flux linking ( emf = -d(Phi)/dt = 0) and there is only induction by flux cutting ( emf = B·v·l ). Is anyone interested? Are you wondering how can it be done? Just play a bit with the electromagnets shape and placement. This is novel as far as I know.

ALVARO_CS

Quote from: hanon on October 29, 2014, 01:14:15 PM
Hi,

I have one doubt: Why the ironless generator in the picture below is not an overunity generator if it does not have a iron core to create drag in the movement? I am afraid that there is something else in Figuera rotary coil patent #30376 than a simple ironless generator.

hanon:
My level in theory is way under yours, but as far as my experience tells me, what I see here is that the force generated in one wire, is very low, and consequently the magnetic field around the wire is as negligible as its drag.
When a bunch of wires (turns) are used, both factors increase, (power & drag) even with no iron in the core.