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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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NRamaswami

Marathonman.. I'm surprised that you did not get the result in a single coil. If you are using Magnetic Amplifier principles results must come at such high rates. Possibly you are using small core and small coils very few turns. Magnetic Amplifier using permanent magnets is different and Magnetic amplifier using Electromagnets is pretty dangerous. Iron will get hot enormously and output will be quite high but such risks are better avoided. It is very easy to use shunted coils at the ends of the primaries but the coils can carry 100 amps and can saturate the entire core. Or did you try with small PM or few turns on coils. This is to be avoided really and is risky. 

Darediamond....How you do you use high voltage pulsed DC at high frequency..Would that mean a spark plug..Kind of Tesla coil primary. Can you explain this part please.

I have used only 50 Hz and 220 volts AC which I know is very mild but it is sufficient to get results. Yes I have used very low input. If I use pulsed DC it will consume 30 amps at 220 volts or 240 volts. Iron will be heated so much and will be saturated and output will be so high. Very few turns of very thick wires can then be used. It is all worrying so much to me and AC is moderate and kind. Also Iron cannot be used at very high frequencies but we will need ferrite cores.

Pulsed DC at high voltage is deadly. Any thing above 60 milliamps can cause death and pulsed DC is DC which is one way current and people doing such experiments should be extremely careful. I do not recommend such risks. Avoid high voltage if you are using pulsed DC and do not go beyond 30 Volts. This is what we are told here. 

Once you master taking energy out of the Atmosphere where is the need to take risks. It is enough if we take what is needed without compromising on safety.

What is Radiant Energy? My understanding is multifilar coils increase frequency of AC and increase inductive impedance and so primary consumes very low input but because there are multiple rotating currents in parallel the core is magnetised signficantly causing high output. 

hanon

Quote from: hanon on February 09, 2016, 09:59:40 AM
Just some thoughts about the movement of the two magnetic fields. Both fields move and collide in the the exact point where they find their equilibrium point: this point  is where their magnetic forces are equal. Let´s say that the magnetic force is directly proportional to the current intensity (Intensity) and is inversely proportional to the square of the distance (d) from the electromagnets (many Physical Laws show a behavior of dissipation proportional to (1/d^2) ). Then simplifying, the magnetic Force could be represented by:    F = K · Intensity / (d^2)   , where K is a constant

The point where both fields (1 and 2) move and find the equilibrium point is where there is balance of their forces :  F1 = F2 . Also we know that the distance from one electromagnet (d1) plus the distance from the other electromagnet (d2) is the total distance between both electromagnets (L).  If we have in one electromagnet a Intensity1= 7 amperes and in the other a Intensity2 = 1 ampere then:

K · Intensity1 / d1^2  =  K · Intensity2 / d2^2        ->    d1 = sqrt(Intensity1/Intensity2)·d2

d1 + d2  = L                                                         ->    d2 =  L / (1 + sqrt (Intensity1/Intenst2))

Now my question: if the induced core is a low reluctance metal , Could it have a force decreasing  proportionally to 1/d^2 ?, or, May it have a magnetic force almost independent to the distance, as consequence of the low reluctance medium? In this second case the movement of the field lines will be very small because the equilibrium point will not be dependent of the distance to each electromagnet. May we need a kind of medium with a little higher reluctance to increase the lines movement?

I have realized that this in another way which may manifest the necessity of an open magnetic path. Although you have a low reluctance path along the induced core, the magnetic lines have to return to its original electromagnet (toward the opposite pole). If you have an open magnetic path, this return path to the other pole is along the air, so air for sure will present high reluctance, and thus a dissipation proportional to 1/d^2 will appear. Therefore the reasoning is still valid if we have an open magnetic path independently of the core reluctance.

marathonman

As been said before the long air path adds to the reluctance = resistance to change = slowing of change of currant in the core. this is a necessity that Figuera purposely built into the system that acts as a currant self regulator sort of speaking.

we need to split this forum into two entities because it is obvious some of us are on a total different path then what is said in patents. if it is not followed then it is NOT Figuera's device plain and simple. their is no BEMF collection or what ever you want to call it, their is no 50 layer filler coil, their is no radiant energy collection just plain and simple orderly currant variations from high to low and back split between two primary electromagnets,  no more no less.

any thing other than this description is NOT A FIGUERA DEVICE.

and yes Nswami my demo device is small so i had to use two core. Duh! i think that would be obvious. my final cores are way larger.
after reading the last few pages on this forum all i can do is shake my head in amasement as to what did i do GOD to deserve this.

hanon

I has come to the conclusion that this forum is like the real society. Some people try to help (altruist), some people are just here to absorb info but do not like to share (selfish), others are just misguiding with their posts (wicked). Is the Floyd VTA a transformer? No. Is the Willis magnacoaster a transformer? No. Is the Hubbard generator a transformer? No. Is Figuera generator a transformer? Patents do not mention anything similar. Please stop using Bajac's design with his air gaped coils to divert the lenz effect. All this is  not even mentioned in the patents.

Patents are just about this:    One electromagnet   One Coil   One electromagnet

As I have collected all my thoughts in my site there is not much left to repeat here.  You may find there all the info about Figuera, and also my own interpretation, which, by the way, follow very close the patents text (just the NN polarity is the only thing which may be disagreed, because is not explicitly written in the patents)

marathonman

 Is the Figuera Device a Transformer ? (NO)
does it act like a transformer? (NO)
is it wound like a transformer? (NO)
is it like or does it act like Rswami device? (HELL NO)
does it amplify ? (YES)
well then how does it amplify ? (by taking the incoming signal and amplifying it)
well how does it do that ? (MAGNETICALLY)
well how does it do that?  (by imitating a rotating generator)
but a generator uses two poles and this device uses only one, how is that going to work? (by two opposite opposing electromagnets varied in intensity in a uniform manner keeping constant pressure between them)
if it is not a transformer then what the hell is it ??????????   (A MAGNETIC/SIGNAL AMPLIFIER.)
why is it not a transformer? (because it transforms nothing)
so your saying all it does it Amplify? (YES)

what did you say it was again?  (A MAGNETIC AMPLIFIER)

WOW Imagine that !