Magnetic energy pump OU motor

[Kator01]

tao,

the amount of flux-density in the space between the two magnets, which has to be compensated, is that of two magnets ( not of one )

So energy-input in coil necessary to compensate space-flux also is in the order of two magnets. It`s so obvious.

Kator

[wizkycho]

tao,

the amount of flux-density in the space between the two magnets, which has to be compensated, is that of two magnets ( not of one )

So energy-input in coil necessary to compensate space-flux also is in the order of two magnets. It`s so obvious.

Kator

hy Kator !

As You see I'm using only one magnet, and one coil.
In every setup for now using magnets and coils from mechanicall (Flinn, Hildenbrand...) to motinless setups (MEG)
has been many times proven practically that small magnetic input is capable of manipulating many times larger magnetic fields...
Simulations allso says the same.
It is really magnetic transistor.

igor

[Kator01]

Igor,

somehow pic5,gif on page two did not show up when I was loggend in lately.
What is the dimension of the coil you are planning for ? Windings, gauge, inner resistance, Ampere-Turns, Voltage applied ?

Only if you use a iron-core within the coil you will have the magnetic flux closed and no attractive force at the end of metal-bar-stator.

I have strong doubts and I simply do not know how the permeabilty of the iron-bar behaves on the right side of the coil facing the rotor.

MEG-Devices are no good argument. Any attempt failed practically,especially the HOPE of Mr. Fauble. They always ended up with powered neon-lights where you are not able to exactly calculate exact feed-in-energy. I cornered Mr. Fauble in challenging him to give proove by using incadescant bulbs. He admitted that this does not work.

So what I am suggesting here is to invent a simple representative experimental setup for proove of the principle, before you invest too much time . Naudine did not proove it. Simulations do not give proove either.

I have an open mind. Go slow and think about the principles first.
I myself will think about a setup for proove of principle.

Good luck
Kator

[Kator01]

Hello  tao,

yes, yes,  I already understand what you mean. My simple question is :

how much energy input in coil is necessary for what amount of flux-density appearing at the
rear end attracting the  rotor. No simulation can give you an answer here. You have to test it.
It is a oversimplified view to talk here about the way of least resistance. It is all a matter of permeabilty and saturation. When you apply a current to the coil, the flux has to overcome the polarized Fe-Elements. I simply ask for the amount of energy necessary to do this.
There is another unknown component in such a system : If you you use a bucking current-puls you will get a supersonic soundwave coming up in the flux-path, circling and bouncing forth and back in the iron-core. No one ever thoguht about this, not even Naudine was taking this into consideration. This might be a very nasty thing affecting your body. So please be careful whe you do practical tests. It is difficult to shield.
This supersonic-wave is occuring here for sure and might be causing side-effects either helpful or the contrary, I do not know

For detailed Information of this priciple here is a website of the german Frauenhofer-Institute :

http://www.ndt.net/article/0398/huebsch/hueb.htm

Kator01

[Kator01]

Hello tao,

yes I will.

I encourage everyone to read this link about supersonic sensor-systems,. It is not a theory
it is a fact based on convetional physics
It is written in english.
They are able to produce mechanical supersonic waves in the range of GigaHerz, by using bucking-fields which create these waves by Lorenz-Force.
No mechanical trigger - therefore almost no limit to frequency !

http://www.ndt.net/article/0398/huebsch/hueb.htm

Kator