Bashar's Spacecraft Engine

[WTF]

I suppose if the wires were meant to touch at the cross over points the wires could share the same holes. Maybe if this were the case that Bashar's wire net wouldn't even use a template.




To be truly interwoven when the wires cross one must be over and the other must be under, so to be interwoven and in contact it would not be possible with a template, the only way for all wires to be in contact at every cross point would be to either have them both over or under at the same cross point which isn't really classed as interwoven, or share the same hole, with the hole being at the cross point which is also not interwoven.


Edit: I don't think it will make any difference if it shares the same hole or crosses over with both on top or both on the bottom as there both crossing and making contact.




What I could do if I have to drill the crystal with those 4 holes with a 5mm bit is put a 4.5mm thick copper wire in it so it touches the sides of the crystal and connect that to the net.

[Uniqorn]

You must remember my device is double the size to the one Bashar was talking about, so this would require a 50mm crystal.

You are right about the woven part saying 1 wire would be over and the other wire that crosses it would be under it, which happens in mine with the template in between, for the wires to cross and touch, both wires would have to be on top or underneath, which wouldn't really be classed as interwoven, if all wires were meant to come in contact with each other it would be more logical to have them contact each other in the centre.

Sorry WTF, I hadn't noticed you had scaled it up! Guess I should read your posts more carefully, eh! ;-)

The mesh is indeed a challenging element to make. It may be that the interweaving is just a means of getting good electrical contact at the intersections.
With this in mind, it could mean that the double spiral pattern could be simply laser-cut from a copper sheet. That's a big maybe, though.
Another method might be to use a spiral pin-board, using the thinnest wire of 0.4mm (1/64"), to help in the fine manipulations required.

Also, I've noticed your mesh is a symmetrical double spiral. In nature, these spirals are asymmetrical. One spiral is a different angle from the other. I suspect that this may matter, and therefore recommend that you imitate natural spirals, as Bashar also indicates in the transcript.

I had a good link for this, but lost it in a bookmark manager crash. :-(    I'll see if I can find it for you, and will post it. It shows how to generate it on a spread sheet, then print it out, so you could use it as a template. I can print a series of these, and post them so you could use them.

[Hope]

Lets keep an eye out for each other,  but also lets be effective.  Obviously,  Bashar's words are important and we need to keep someone on specifics.  But also,  we must be trying to understand more than any one part the whole principle.  Please each of you describe what each piece (best you can) is doing and why you feel that way.  If we are to use energy flowing all around us then we must agree on some mutual thoughts to how this can happen.


This is my feeling:    Let's say that we are a boat floating on a large river which is moving rapidly all around us.   We wish to use it's movement to obtain energy.  We will need more than a large paddle wheel mounted on our boat.   We need a "difference in potential" first.   So we need to anchor to some stationary non moving bank.  This way the water flows past our wheels.   Secondly,  we need the wheel to do work.  Thirdly,  we need to save that work.  And at last use that work (and convert it if need be to a usable form). 


So what is the nature of the flow needs to be understood.  I mean how can we collect water with a sieve or sand with a pitch fork? 


We assume it is static electricity all? What else does anyone think it could be?  Perhaps a negative flow from all this science we now use that doesn't even acknowledge there is another flow, such as an opposite and equal reaction?   I am hoping to make some definitive's here because thousands of ideas just plain use the scatter gun approach and hit a target once.  Yet miss that lucky shot the next 50 attempts.  If we can define the rules,  it will only take a minimum of efforts to make and remake working devices.


So please what kind of energy are we seeking to collect?


 

[WTF]

You both have been very helpful, so thank you.

Regarding having different angle of one of the spirals, I know what you mean, when you look at sunflowers, but these are more random not just one of the overlaid spirals that are different, unless I hear this from Bashar I won't change that ever, as these are 100% proper Fibonacci spirals.

But I have redesigned the template with the theory that when Bashar says touch & penetrate, he means the wire touches the sides of the crystal as it goes through, so a nice tight fitting for those 4 wires and not the wires touching the side of the crystal, though there's no harm in doing so.

Now I have increased the centre hole by 5mm so now can use crystals between 50mm – 54mm, I have lost the first stitching around the centre hole but have managed to squeeze in 12 more wires, so I now have 60 in total instead of 48, which is now 12 degrees apart, in comparison the old template looks empty, hard to believe 12 more wires can make it look so crowded, this will increase surface area which can only be good.

I will wire this up with shared holes, this is where the wires will make contact.

I will use the amethyst as a practice crystal for the holes as if the holes are too big this could destroy the centre of it rendering it as useless.

See I'm now coming to your way of thinking Uniqorn (now you can have your sigh of relieve) but the template will remain symmetrical, that will never change without 100% evidence to back up your theory, remember nature isn't perfect, it's a representation of perfection. But the other things you have suggested do seem logical so I will try them.






Another way the wire net could be done is do 2 separate single spirals and then put them together, not what you call interwoven, but if there meant to be in contact with each other then would be easier.

[Hope]

Looking forward to seeing the device any way you build it.   Do you have pictures showing the disks as they were made?  Do you have the hemispheres already?  Can you show all the parts and material used so we can get a parts list?






A bit of information on Quartz:



" Quartz is the low-temperature stable form of silicon dioxide or silica.Silicon and oxygen are the two most common elements in the Earth's crust.Quartz crystal is perhaps the most common mineral found on the face of the Earth. Sand and sandstone are considered "clastic" forms of quartz by mineralogists, meaning that they are formed of fragments of pre-existing rocks.


Although quartz makes up a large portion of the Earth's surface, there are only three places in the world that have enough high quality quartz crystal to warrant mining. These are Brazil, Madagascar, a small island off the coast of Africa, and Mt. Ida in the Ouachita Mountain range of Arkansas.


The remarkable geometric patterns quartz crystals form in nature have been the subject of scientific inquiry for centuries. In 1660, Renaissance Saint and scientist Nicolaus Steno conducted precise measurements of quartz crystal structures and found that regardless of their source, the angles between corresponding quartz crystal faces are constant. This became known as Steno's Law of crystallography.


In the next century, the Abbé Haüy formulated the geometric law of crystallization. His work led to the modern definition of a crystal: any substance in which the molecules or atoms are arranged in a regular, ordered way in three dimensions.Crystals formed of the same mineral occur naturally in many different shapes, but all share specific internal structural characteristics.


There are believed to be seven shapes, or "systems" into which crystals can form. They include cubic, hexagonal, tetragonal, orthorhombic, monoclinic, and triclinic. Quartz manifests in hexagonal crystalline systems, commonly having the form of a six-sided prism terminating in a six-sided pyramid."


quoted from http://www.satyacenter.com/health-crystals-using-quartz-crystals?page=7