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Overunity Machines Forum



1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%

Started by cipbranea, May 21, 2014, 01:38:08 AM

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i_ron

Quote from: gotoluc on June 06, 2014, 03:15:43 PM
Hi Ron,

what I've been seeing and still seeing is all upper rods move in a circle. Notice the upper rod is also rotating as its top is being turned in a circle since its base is bolted in the mid turn plate with weight attached. The lower rod top turns in a bearing mounted in the mid turn plate. The lower rod base looks mounted directly in a bearing since the small the upper circle has next to no effect to the lower bearing because of the rod length and the rod has a little flex at it lowest part of the base which is also helped by the weight pulled outwards (below reinforcement). The inventor reinforced the rod where he does not want flex.
I see the system to be very simple and will start building a single rotor prototype as of Monday. I should have most of it done in a week.

I'm sure this will be no problem for you to build also.

Luc




Hi Luc,


I am a little concerned with the 'direct bearing and the flex', to my way of thinking the upper stage must
work  exactly as the lower stage. The upper stage therefore needs to be only strong enough to drive the lower stage.


Where the lower stage has a universal joint (CV joint), to allow the full rotation effect of the lower rod, so must the upper stage have the equivalent motion. This can be achieved by having the lower bearing of the upper stage in a ball joint type of bearing (self aligning) but very much prone to wear... a compass type mount (gimbal mount) would be the simplest and easiest to make. Thus the bearing has freedom to follow
the upper rotation friction free.


Ron
   






Fernandez

What an excellent video. This video should be the basis for ALL o.u. devices. It clearly states the principle, you do not eat off the first or second generation. These effects materialize from the 3rd order on upward.

Waste no time in making an exact replication. Understand what is happening first:

- Small motor and drive pulley (generation 1) --- aka (primary coil) exciter coil
- Driven pulley (generation 2) --- aka (secondary coil) exciter coil also
- Transmission A (generation 3) --- aka (Tesla's third coil if you like) -> primary o.u. coil
- Transmission B (generation 4) --- Load coil (eats here)

You can keep increasing the order and generate different effects. There is no limit.


gotoluc

Quote from: i_ron on June 07, 2014, 04:00:10 PM



Hi Luc,


I am a little concerned with the 'direct bearing and the flex', to my way of thinking the upper stage must
work  exactly as the lower stage. The upper stage therefore needs to be only strong enough to drive the lower stage.


Where the lower stage has a universal joint (CV joint), to allow the full rotation effect of the lower rod, so must the upper stage have the equivalent motion. This can be achieved by having the lower bearing of the upper stage in a ball joint type of bearing (self aligning) but very much prone to wear... a compass type mount (gimbal mount) would be the simplest and easiest to make. Thus the bearing has freedom to follow
the upper rotation friction free.


Ron
   

Hi Ron,

I thought that concern would come up ;D

I made a looped video for you so you can observe the base shafts turning. Make sure to view it in full screen.
Let me know what you think because I can't see much movement at the lowest part of the shaft (before first base bearing)
I also don't see a universal joint, just the transfer gear below the first bearing and that gear seems to be turning quite straight.
I think at most the first lower bearing could be a self aligning kind like you say and then a fixed bearing on the end of the shaft (after the transfer gear) to keep the gear turning straight.

Luc

i_ron

Quote from: gotoluc on June 07, 2014, 09:15:12 PM
Hi Ron,

I thought that concern would come up ;D

I made a looped video for you so you can observe the base shafts turning. Make sure to view it in full screen.
Let me know what you think because I can't see much movement at the lowest part of the shaft (before first base bearing)
I also don't see a universal joint, just the transfer gear below the first bearing and that gear seems to be turning quite straight.
I think at most the first lower bearing could be a self aligning kind like you say and then a fixed bearing on the end of the shaft (after the transfer gear) to keep the gear turning straight.

Luc




Hi Luc,


Thanks for the base vid... you are correct in not being able to see a universal joint... but really bad
engineering not to have something there! Any stiffness there is counter active, meaning the weight
is not going to fall down hill if the stress of the rod is trying to hold it vertically.


Don't forget we are dealing with a machinist of some talent here and even though the stub output shaft
is running true in two bearings, if the top is turning in a true circle
the angle will never change so the stub shaft could be either bent or machined to this constant required angle.


Incidentally, the "fatness" of the outer portion of the 'gear' would suggest chain drive to the
centre output bevel gears.


Ron