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Overunity Machines Forum



1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%

Started by cipbranea, May 21, 2014, 01:38:08 AM

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ARMCORTEX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb_PQ32tMQ0&list=UUpWUFx1jGHLKoVECzc4jzEQ

I want you guys to work on this now.

Mechanical ''pulse shock'' oscillator designs using eccentrics or simply geometry.

And I dont wanna hear about magnets.

Either the lead out effect is true, or somekind of standing wave echo is happening within the belt.




2020man

Quote from: ARMCORTEX on November 04, 2014, 01:56:06 PM
The device never worked, video and claims were wrong.

Who is to blame for all this commotion ?

Have you tried this device?

Thanks for the maths above but I'm not at all sure it's right. It doesn't seem to take into account the phase difference between top of pole offset and arm/weight offset.

The very simple mockup of the device that I have made up behaves entirely as expected until one leans the top of the pole at 90 degrees to the arm, and then moves in the direction tangential to the weight, it wanting to fall, it wanting to go around in a circle. This device is difficult to picture in 3d and causes difficulties in analysis as a result. Who has actually built one? And who has let the top pole be loose rather than fixed? It's essential also to put direction in at the top but not a driving energy - one has to direct the pole and then allow gravity to do the work.

Please forgive my stupidity in pursuit of this device but the behaviour of the test pole, arm and weight I've put together indicates something unexpressed by the mathematical analysis and indicates also how merely as a driven exccentric flywheel it's not going to do anything but be exactly that. . .

Best wishes

2020

2020man

Quote from: webby1 on November 05, 2014, 06:44:17 PM
Yes

I have,, and I have used a single stage as well as the double stage that Skinner showed in the clip.

I have tried it with the shafts locked and unlocked and indexed at various angles relative to the whole setup,, I have even tried things that I have not already shared in this thread.  The upper shaft acts both to transfer a torque through its own twist as well as a leverage via the gimbal,, the lower weight can be small if raised up high or large and left low,, there are very many little things that can be adjusted.

I think there is something with this setup,, but not how it is currently understood.

THanks greatly for this

I have just set a prize for a school DT department to get students to make one with a prize for the best device and an offer to buy a working one for £1000 which I thought to be adequate inducement to inspire . . . . and was worried about leading young people up the garden path. But clearly your hunch and my hunch that there's something capable of happening here indeicates it's worthwhile to direct young people's energies and intellects to examining this.

Best wishes

2020

MoRo

Quote from: 2020man on November 05, 2014, 06:06:52 PM
Have you tried this device?

Thanks for the maths above but I'm not at all sure it's right. It doesn't seem to take into account the phase difference between top of pole offset and arm/weight offset.

The very simple mockup of the device that I have made up behaves entirely as expected until one leans the top of the pole at 90 degrees to the arm, and then moves in the direction tangential to the weight, it wanting to fall, it wanting to go around in a circle. This device is difficult to picture in 3d and causes difficulties in analysis as a result. Who has actually built one? And who has let the top pole be loose rather than fixed? It's essential also to put direction in at the top but not a driving energy - one has to direct the pole and then allow gravity to do the work.

Please forgive my stupidity in pursuit of this device but the behaviour of the test pole, arm and weight I've put together indicates something unexpressed by the mathematical analysis and indicates also how merely as a driven exccentric flywheel it's not going to do anything but be exactly that. . .

Best wishes

2020


The math above also does not appear to consider the reaction of centrifugal forces that would come into play after the mass is revolving at any given speed.


I am currently gathering the necessary items to assemble a very simple first stage unit with the means to accurately measure the static output torque and compare this with the static input torque required to out-of-phase the tilt bar at various angles (an output load state) up to 90 degrees. After this dynamic input/output torque will be compared up to a point where the mass cannot overcome a load.


once I'm done, I'll put it on my YouTube.


MagnaMoRo

teamsource

This setup looks similar to me except I could never figure out what the extra weights were for?

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Mann_Gravity_Mover