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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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Quote from: wistiti on October 18, 2016, 11:30:35 PM
Hey Chris!
Yes i know you are in! :)
It goes much for other quiet Reader's/builders who may whant to jump in...
I think sharing on a common simple, low cost project must be interesting!
Anyone interested??





Exactly, no matter your experience, we will all work together, helping each other, doing the best we can to learn as much as we can, no criticism, only positive reinforcement! The more experienced helping and coaching the less experienced!

If you're reading and want to join in, then please do!

LostFox has set a bit of a Benchmark replicating Wistiti's and Skywatchers work, but this can be learned from, its a positive thing!

Respect, I completely agree Wistiti!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

l0stf0x

I am in too guys!!! With your help I may be useful :)

wistiti, itsu, EMJunkie thank you all for the extra knowledge! Its much appreciated!  :)

Unfortunately I cant start testing immediately as all my equipment fried on this circuit. :( But I have time to study and get ready different setups until new equipment arrive. And that is what I do..


Just few thoughts...about the core
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Although I had a good output with the first setup, and because I have more from the same ferrites, I wind few more coils and I noticed the whistle on the cores is always present and sometimes loud too.

Even if you tune the coil the whistle is there, you can only change the frequency of the whistle to higher or lower... and even you can't hear it, it doesn't mean its not there.

But we know that noise (parasitic vibration) means core loses (Hysteresis losses which I think I have plenty in my cores)... Yes we know that the core concentrates the fields and increase the inductance, but my felling is that the core has conflict (at the particular setup) and does more harm than good.

That is just my opinion, correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Air coils may give much better results if they are arranged the proper way.

itsu

L0stf0x,

"noise (parasitic vibration)" does not per se mean losses, it could also be a gain medium (acoustic magnetic generator).
There are patents on and some of us did some experiments with AMR, see f.i. this thread:
http://overunity.com/14307/acoustic-magnetic-generator/msg388945/#msg388945

Anyway, i will try to make a moveable bifilar primary coil so that it can slide over the secondaries for both a tuning capability as a tighter coupling.

Regards itsu

wistiti

Great! so at least, we are a little bunch of happy builder who are interested! Am not worry, as long as we go and share with respect, some other may join us... :) (by the way, i propose to ignore the people who just come in to argue or theorize.)

So how do you see it? I think we should start with simple device consisting of easy avalivable parts or salvaged from scrap around us... This way, every budget people can join in an we recycle things! :)


l0stf0x

Hi Itsu, :)
I saw the thread, that is actually more evidence that noise is form of energy.
In the thread's setup someone try to turn vibration (noise) to current, so the opposite can happen.
I think the transformer should be cool and quiet. Noise and heat should be a byproduct in our case. But again I maybe wrong  :-\

I will make a drawing to express what I am saying on our circuit.


Quote from: itsu on October 19, 2016, 10:57:23 AM
L0stf0x,

"noise (parasitic vibration)" does not per se mean losses, it could also be a gain medium (acoustic magnetic generator).
There are patents on and some of us did some experiments with AMR, see f.i. this thread:
http://overunity.com/14307/acoustic-magnetic-generator/msg388945/#msg388945

Anyway, i will try to make a moveable bifilar primary coil so that it can slide over the secondaries for both a tuning capability as a tighter coupling.

Regards itsu