The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....

[Magluvin]

Ok. Im not going to try and say whats wrong and whats right about your post.  But in No. 1, the brushes overlap for the motor operation. Unless you think there are some spikes there that affect the operations of the circuit as a whole, the motor should be on its own in that respect. Dont ya think? Tesla only speaks of the (E) motor commutator 1 time to show current paths in the circuit....


" That is to say, the coils of the field and armature may be in series or derivation or wholly independent, and either or both are connected up in the circuit. In the present instance one terminal, as B, is connected to one of the binding posts, from which the circuit is led through one field-coil, D, the brushes and commutator E, the other field-coil, F, and thence to a brush G, which rests upon a circuit-controller H, consisting in general of a conducting disk or cylinder with insulating sections in its periphery."

When I was messing with the igniter circuit, I have it down to where when the switch opens, you can see the cap voltage rise and the same rise across the large inductor. There may be some phase difference due to the primary in the loop, but basically I can close the switch in time with the cap peak and discharge. Now what else I have seen is, if I stretch out the switch open time, I can see the cap voltage rise to peak and then fall, sending current back through the large inductance, also back through the battery and then the cap voltage peaks again in the negative and then the switch closes and I get a very good spark then also. 

So if the current through the large inductor is max .28a, and we dont close the switch till the cap does this almost full reversal with the large inductor, then we have sent some back to the battery already before we dump the cap into the primary. Will have to be set up for these input power measurements to see what we actually used there and compare.  But the savings due to the large inductor igniter circuit is huge compared to the standard conventional circuit, and here we may have saved even more in the igniter circuit by allowing the cap and large inductor oscillate just 3/4  of a cycle instead of just 1/4 cycle before cap discharge into the primary and have sent back some to the battery during operation cycles.

So far that is the best I can say about this circuit thus far. I hope there is more. But we will have to figure that out for ourselves here.

Mags

[Magluvin]

Curious what your excuse would be.....

Was a little out of it earlier and was just a bit off in my replies. Your posts wont be deleted.

Off and on, when work is not in the way I try to delve back into all this stuff.  Got a lot of hours in it all again and i just hope for good things and I end up in threads where I spend a lot of the free time arguing, and balh blah..   

So I would appreciate your help here. But its hard to gain a focus on the whole of what your describing. More like what we get from it is still off in the distance to figure it out.  I mean we have talked about a lot here and apparently your circuit is somewhat different.

Anyway, didnt really mean what I said earlier.  Im getting busy here with work again. Put the setup on the shelf for now. Spent yesterday with it observing timing like I said earlier. Whether it is anything good or not, I have a better feel for some things that are going on.

Watching Shallow Hall.   Great movie.  Hadnt seen it in a long time.  Putting me in a better mood.

Mags

[Magluvin]

Ok. Cool.

Couple questions.

If someone here does happen to get it, what would you like to see in all that? Would you like someone to finally get it? Would you like it if they tried to show everyone freely?

Just wonder.

Mags

[forest]

Here is the answer:  https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-568178-method-regulating-apparatus-producing-electric-currents-high
You will know 
Once upon a time my teacher has given me a riddle : you have two metalic rods: one is the magnet and one is iron - you cannot differentiate among those by looking at them (they are identical in form and look) - you have no tools or apparatus to check magnetic field - you have only those two rods.
Find a method how to judge which one is the magnet.

[Magluvin]

thank you would be a fun place to start....


would be interesting if someone finally got it....yeah...


get it first.....

Well I do say thanks for bringing a lot of interesting ideas to the table. Ya know, Im slow. It takes me a while to get things down. Like I need to read things more than once, or watch a movie more than 5 times to seem like I got it all together as to what exactly happened. Like people say they always notice new things the second time watching, well I notice new things of importance to the story seemingly every time I watch it. But once I know it I know a lot.  Some people pick things up fast. Sometimes i just get frustrated with myself. Ive had a lot of ups and downs here.  Lately  with the resonance Im feeling up. But there is times a battle to keep feeling up. then the subject becomes far from focus.  I dunno.

Anyway, Ill need to jump back and go over the stuff youve said and see what comes of it.

Mags

Mags