Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[a.king21]

Well firstly, in response to Rick's "phase conjugate mirror" claim.  Yesterday I ran the kit for 3 hours and the voltage on the gate driver did not move - so something interesting was happening.  (I had several extra coils). So I was lighting several leds and powering the gate driver without loss.




I was hoping from help from the community not attacks.


So I will bow out gracefully and say I cannot prove Don Smith one way or the other.
  I will end my discussions on this subject with Rick's reply in  the following youtube post.


"We are presently doing some additions to the kit which will address that. You are dealing with high frequency so you have to have high frequency parts. The LEDs are slow diodes and show only a fraction of the output on purpose. The purpose of the kit is not to see how much OU we can get but to learn about sensitive tuning before you get into the heavy output amplification. The high frequency needs to be converted to the frequency of the loads people are using. Capacitors, diodes and related parts need to be fast enough for the 1.25MHz, regular parts will not give you very much at all. You can run the coils at 180kHz with 5nf caps as I do when I use the regular coils with the big coil at my meetings. That is a significantly lower frequency to work with. You could go with lower frequency still with a bigger cap but I find the 100pf cap range to be about the best (and the higher the frequency the more energy can be multiplied). Converting the HF to usable low frequency is another whole matter where there is just as much lack of experience as in creating resonance. You have to get into the R (resistor) side of an RLC circuit and/or the RC side. In the Don Smith book I show the pages from the video where Don shows the three resonant waves with the RLC circuit. The first is the regular damped wave which is called positive. The second is the standing wave (which we can get into with phase conjugate mirroring) which is called zero. The third is the increasing or trumpet wave which is negative (resistance). The third allows the matched resistor to (as Don says) pull out the frequency (lower) while adding amplitude or capacity. This is like a voltage transformer, but rather a frequency transformer. Both do not sacrifice power in the conversion so that as you lower the frequency you increase the capacity in the charging capacitor accordingly. [But when you don't convert the frequency you just get the energy level of the capacity as if the frequency was converted when using low frequency parts and loads.] So you have to go to the charts in the ARRL books and find the right resistor to match the system. So this something people have to do and learn for themselves. It's hard to come to grips with in that a resistor is used to being a load, and in this case it is a negative resistor for the purpose of transformation of the energy. Don addresses these things, but very little. I did what I could in the Don Smith book to show you some actual pictures of his models where he was doing that, but he never gave specific details of any one system. No one, including me, are going to give out all the part numbers and specific values of every part we use as this is where people have to do that for themselves. I'll get into this more as soon as I can catch up with orders and do one other thing with this kit first. The Don Smith book was to put all the details Don gave into one place without modifying that with commentary or words from other people (including me). The Resonance book with kit is important to learn from before that book. But another application book would be good to do (but may never get done because it would probably cross a dangerous line...). Right now it is up to people to figure out the several stages. We did the resonance stage already, so people have to figure out how to replace the frequency generator with a better system that rings the bell to allow self-oscillation rather than forced. Then they have to learn the conventional process of converting the frequency as mentioned. Then transform the voltage if necessary. You can learn about these in the Don Smith book enough to make it work and understand it. I show some other commercial devices that did these processes, so people can look at existing tech to see how it is done. But I am limited to what I can show specifically for several reasons..."


Good luck with your experimenting and I am done now.

BYE.

[citfta]

I was hoping from help from the community not attacks.

I am sorry that you feel someone pointing out very basic well known electronic fundamentals is somehow an attack.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[citfta]

citfta
May I ask two questions ?

1. Is it true that resistance in radio LC circuit will change Q factor and make resonant "point" wider ?2. Can you make LC circuit of high Q factor and then connect proper antenna and have standing wave inside it without radiating EM wave with the same amps and voltage rise as in LC circuit ?

Yes, changing the resistance in a LC circuit does change the Q and that in turn changes the width of the frequency response.
I don't understand your last question.  If you connect a tuned LC circuit to a properly  tuned antenna it WILL radiate an EM wave.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[itsu]

Hi Itsu,

The part I highlighted in red is the very reason I decided Don Smith was either very confused or a scam artist.  As I think you know I am a Ham so I was already pretty familiar with the ARRL handbook.  I was also familiar with that chart that Don used very incorrectly to make his claim.  Up until I saw that in one of his videos I thought he might actually have something.  When I saw that I then became very skeptical and then the more I saw the more I realized he was spouting out a bunch of garbage.   His claim that a neon sign transformer was already OU because the open output voltage times the shorted output current was more power than the input is also a false claim.  You measure output power by measuring both the current and voltage while under load as anyone with any electronics training already knows.  Those are only two of the red flags I saw while watching some of his videos.

As I have said before,   I like Rick,  but I am very sorry to see he has fallen for the baloney put out by Don Smith.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Hi Carroll,

yes that claim that a neon sign transformer was already OU is another goof up of him that opened up the eyes of many.


Anyway, it don't look like i will get any answers on my questions, so i will await my gaussmeter to arrive
and do some tests with it to see if i can find some extra energy with it.

Itsu

[AlienGrey]

Hi Carroll,

yes that claim that a neon sign transformer was already OU is another goof up of him that opened up the eyes of many.


Anyway, it don't look like i will get any answers on my questions, so i will await my gaussmeter to arrive
and do some tests with it to see if i can find some extra energy with it.

Itsu

Yes Hmm I can already see a problem with this test that result in nothing being observed some how.
Why because the correct protocol wont be practiced in it's test as you most probably don't have the correct apparatus to do it with as a cheep'o  device will be just too slow unless your going to lash out into the 5 or 600 region. Watch the 3 vid's Philippine guy made by Ismael Aviso on how it works secret.