Open Source Vs. Patenting

[AB Hammer]

@infringer

You are correct if that inventor holds out trying to get the best deal he can. But how can you protect your interest by open sourcing?

I have said this time and time again. Once the inventor is in patent pending. The inventor of FE should show it openly so the self builders can build there own causing even more proof of the FE device and then it will no longer be able to be hidden. Plus the inventor will have their credit, and will be able to deal, and deal they should. I don't want to be stuck manufacturing these devices when I can spend the rest of my life trying to improve it and build better designs as well. Let those who have all the equipment start building the devices for those who won't or can't build their own.

[infringer]

You protect your inventions that do not work but I should tell you a story long in the running...

The story of the poor mans patent...

This is what you do sir you first send your idea in a tamper proof envelope to yourself in the mail be sure it is post marked... And also sign for it.

Do not I repeat do not open this as you will need it sealed tamper proof and sent to you....

If you take this evidence to court I say you have an 80% chance that you will win your lawsuit and claim the rights to the patent.

This is what I like to consider a poor mans patent but I was told this worked for a few people through the years.

Take extra steps as well if you feel nessacary have it notorized on the back of the envolope that it was sealed on a certain date.

Surley you will win without a doubt then get you an attorney that does not get payed unless they win.

I am suprised you are not aware of the many ways to have solid evidence of the date of your invention and how to prove that it was in fact stolen...

Not to mention the forum dont lie about the date at which you submit your invention to the forum yet another form of proof and I gaurentee stephan would
provide all proof required if your invention did amount to something.

Problem is that monitary support for something now adays you would have tons of cash pouring in if you simply asked for donations not to mention if proven
I believe there is the xprize the prize here and other things like it...

Sheesh if you came up with something you think it would go unnoticed?

The kid who hacked the friggin iphone was offered all kinds of cash and a car and a job high paying...

Think Openly Uncle Scrooge pondering the amount of pennies you will lose is not going to do nothing other then hold you back.

[utilitarian]

You protect your inventions that do not work but I should tell you a story long in the running...

The story of the poor mans patent...

This is what you do sir you first send your idea in a tamper proof envelope to yourself in the mail be sure it is post marked... And also sign for it.

Do not I repeat do not open this as you will need it sealed tamper proof and sent to you....

If you take this evidence to court I say you have an 80% chance that you will win your lawsuit and claim the rights to the patent.

This is what I like to consider a poor mans patent but I was told this worked for a few people through the years.

Take extra steps as well if you feel nessacary have it notorized on the back of the envolope that it was sealed on a certain date.

Surley you will win without a doubt then get you an attorney that does not get payed unless they win.

This is complete idiocy.  The sealed envelope offers no protection whatsoever.

[infringer]

How do you figure? You tamper proof your envolope seal it and get the envolope notarized on back that it was sealed  tamper proof then send it to yourself and do not open it you then have a date, and untampered evidence

A patent offers no protection either... If you wanna get technical reproductions are always a problem in other countries and such.

Sorry to say but it is true a slight alteration to the device makes your device crapp and theres better and gives them the ability to make a new patent...

And I will tell you yes it does offer protection providing the legal system serves justice which there is a very great chance it would.

AB Hammer is cool shit man dont get me wrong I like the dood.

But I will tell you if you publish a book with the library of congress or whatever for 75bux it should also provide a decent amount of protection as well...

The truth is the more documented proof you have of your invention the better.

Everything will provide evidence beyond circumstatial or he said she said is a forum of proof that you did infact come up with this invention ... Dates do matter as well.

[AB Hammer]

@infringer

What you said about the poor mans patent hasn't been any good for years. As a song writer it was common to do this to help support the filed copy wright,  but it is so easy to fraud it became useless. The funny thing is, the fraudsters have cause this protection to be no good any more, and it seems like the court experts where the only fraudsters on this method. IMO (can we say big brother strikes again?)

As for open sourcing, you are missing that it only takes a little change to get a new patent and you can't do anything about it. The patent you fill out has to be worded correctly or it can still be a waste. The deck is stacked against us that are not rich, so we have to draw the correct cards and you can still win.