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The MAD MAX e-car

Started by lancaIV, July 23, 2021, 06:56:42 AM

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lancaIV

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_C5   nominal 250 W motor ,45 Kg   max 24 Km/h


https://citkar.com/de/ Loadster                 nominal 250 W motor,150 Kg   max 25 Km/h


https://www.cityq.biz/                              nominal 250 W motor,60 Kg     max 25 Km/h ,limited


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Paul Arzen electric Egg http://electricandhybridcars.com/images/uploaded/1evegg.jpg


L'Oeuf or Better known as the Electric Egg
In 1942, French auto designer, Paul Arzens designed an electric car that was instantly christened "L'Oeuf" (the egg), reflecting it's egg-shape.
Other eye catching features were the tiny wheels and the high proportion of the bodywork formed of curved transparent plexiglas.
The body itself weighed just 60 kg, although adding the electric rear mounted motor raised this to 90 kg.
Once batteries were added the vehicle weight was increased to 350 kg, allowing for a range of 63 miles at 44 mph.

2021 : the car body from aluminium to "recycled Oceanus plastics" ? 60 Kg as target
           the electric motor,reference Haeusler Zsolt 1500 W AC-220 V 4000 RPM by Schiller PAM Tech : max 5 Kg

           Loadster 150 Kg - (60 kg body and 5 Kg motor) = 85 Kg for the inverter-battery system


                                         E-Egg2025 for 2000 Euros ?






Why shall Politics not increase the street legal speed velocity for Pedelecs/Mo-Fa from 25 Km/h to the future common metropoles 30 Km/h max velocity/speed limit ?


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.e-bikeinfo.de/recht/gesetzliche-vorschriften-e-bikes-pedelecs


With support when pedaling up to a maximum of 25 km / h (plus tolerance) and a rated continuous output of the motor of 250 watts , pedelecs are considered bicycles .




S-Pedelec / E-Bike45              ancient          Mo-Ped


(= fast class up to 45km / h: two-wheeled moped EU category L1e-B, three-wheeled L2e or four-wheeled L6e)

Even if the fast S-Pedelecs do not have a high market share in this country, they are rightly enjoying increasing popularity. There are now a large number of models and engine variants. In Switzerland, for example, the proportion of S-Pedelecs is significantly higher than in Germany, primarily due to other laws.



Maximum supported speed: 45 km / h


NEW from 01.01.2017: According to the new EU type approval (EU regulation no. 168/2013), which applies from the beginning of 2017 and repeals the old regulation 2002/24 / EC, the vehicles can Class L1e-B, L2e and L6e provide up to  4 kW max.nominal  power or useful power



               the E-Egg2025 as  three-wheeled L2e ( by 500-1500 W motor) with pedals




Electric light moped / moped (formerly "e-bike" in the narrower sense)The market share of this class is negligible.Maximum speed 20 km / h with 500 watts maximum motor power.
No need to use your own muscle power.
Power control via e-throttle; the motor may have a maximum of 500 watts.
Minimum age 15 years, moped driving license and insurance license plate required.
There is no obligation to wear a helmet.
Use of cycle paths in urban areas only in exceptional cases in conjunction with the  "E-bike free" traffic sign , with which cycle paths for this same e-bike class (not S-Pedelecs) can be approved by the municipalities from 1.1.2017. E-bikes are generally allowed to ride on cycle paths outside of town.



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e-Egg for 2000 Euros,circa 100 Kg vehicle total weight


realization possibility by comparison


https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/2020-new-model-e-trike-manila-for-sale-62221349480.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.4ff938acb2Sy61

450 US$/95 Kg

https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/battery-operated-electric-cargo-tricycle-with-heavy-loading-500kg-van-tricycle-for-delivery-e-trikes-62149442633.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.6e6c38ac5HBavt

750 US$/370 Kg

https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/exuberant-e-trike-for-indian-people-with-great-performance-1600146132970.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.6e6c38ac5HBavt

1750 US$/350 Kg


https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/mobility-closed-m1-trike-m-1-e-car-electricscooters-new-electric-tricycle-1600118965036.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.6e6c38ac5HBavt

1450 US$/155 Kg


5-10 US$/Kg etrike means by 100 Kg weight E-Egg by chinese production condition a selling price between 500-1000 US$ each


as " 30 Km/h speed max" city-share-mobile ( max. 45 Km/h speed limit )or rent easy affordable

lancaIV

Arzen e-Egg weight list 1942 : 60 Kg body (included wheels)


                                         + 30 Kg (calculating 1942 e-motor performance with 3 KW )


2021                                      7,5 Kg permanent magnet e-motor  2021          +      ?


http://www.schillergy.com/pdf/schiller-energy.pdf pm e-motor weight reference

+ 350 Kg lead battery with average 35 Wh/Kg = 12 250 Wh or 12,25 KWh total



    2021 battery weight decrease potential :                                     





https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20021231&CC=US&NR=6501093B1&KC=B1


and citing documents ((who is working in that level spectrum ?!)


                             the target for 1942 range :                    12 250 Wh or 12,25 KWh


                              A. Marks ENSOR battery : 15 KWh/Kg

                     from 350 Kg by scientifical theory down to 1 Kg for same power storage and drive range

                                                                                            12,5 Kg https://overunity.com/18215/innolith-battery-1000-whkg/

we can assume 1942 electric motor efficiency performance with < 50% average ( comparing with pure electromagnetic motor 2021 NORM !)


I take a conventional 2021 permanent magnet motor with average 85% efficiency,modify the winding with Imris capacitive windings :


50% Arzen e-motor / ( 85% PM motor x 2 Imris improvement factor) = 0,3 energy storage decrease factor for same 1942 range


                                                                                          12,5 Kg Innolith x 0,3 = 3,75 Kg or 3750 Wh


                                                                                            1,0 Kg ENSOR x 0,3  = 0,3 Kg  or  4500 Wh


Now to accomplish : e-motor AC Volta-age to battery DC or AC Volt-age output in-/con-verter weight ,for above 3 KW we can assume


by modified sine wave output :  3 KW/ 3 Kg inverter  ( 10 US$/Kg selling price alibaba e-store fob factory )


by pure sine wave output       :  3 KW/10 Kg inverter                "      "     "     "    "     "     "     "     "


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for electric motors modified inverter sufficient !


1942 total car weight


60 Kg car chassis/body + 7,0 Kg e-pm motor + 3 Kg  modified sine wave 12V/220 V inverter  + ? Kg battery


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instead Schiller -like pm motor


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20091130&CC=PT&NR=104078A&KC=A


nominal 5 KW for 5 Kg weight ,consume reducement factor : 0,1 ( cw/ccw capacity circuit)


with weight decrease the total vehicle drive performance changes (from 44 mph 1942 to 60 mph) but also the static on road


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZTxu4uj1bc  ( Adieu JPB : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO2xJxu_4tQ )


probably the car need now ballast ! (water tank or sand/stone/cement storage )


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a simple e-vehicle EMD cycle



https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19881103&CC=DE&NR=3713965A1&KC=A1


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5

The invention is designed in a technically simple device and consists of two batteries and a band capacitor and a transformer or an electromagnet in a circuit between two batteries and the band capacitor only shuttles the electrical energy back and forth according to the preamble of the main claim.

                                                              shuttle = displaces


the first battery is charged by the brake energy recuperation from the Rust motor-generator couple generator action and is amplifying the battery 1 load  by the capacitive winding transformer and charging the second battery which loads the Rust motor


circuit 2 :   


                 Gordon James motor-generator couple performance claim 100 in and 30 recapture by generator


                 Peter Rust                                                            claim  100 in and 50 recapture (" doubling the range " ) by generator



Rust motor from motor-generator couple with Imris capacitive winding  50 in and 50 recapture by generator


                                                                       "       "      "      "        50 in and 66,6 recapture by generator with Arestov double windings


                                                                                                       50 in and 88    recapture by generator with Arestov double windings
         
                                                                                                                                                               with D. Yurth coating






The Peter Rust motor with :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130314&CC=US&NR=2013062983A1&KC=A1


and Imris capacitive winding






with


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20200205&CC=MX&NR=2019010053A&KC=A


and Imris capacitive windings




The Peter Rust generator from the motor-generator couple with/as :


Tudor-Frunzi or Kango Iida or Kumar or Akio Hara concept ( these all + Arestov double windings)
and David Yurth generator winding coating :


                                                           50 to 100+ recuperation


                                                         "circuits in a circuit" system


the basic e-Egg with limited range 500 - 1000 US$ by chinese production costs


the         e-Egg with limitless range 1500 -2000 US$ by chinese production costs


2000 US$ / 1,15 =           


                                        < 2000 Euros the limitless range e-Egg,fob factory price




                                                                            q.e.d.




btw : https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090079393A1/en


        alibaba commerce-platform :


        modified sine wave 12V /220 V inverter sufficient ? 3 KW nominal inverter price begins with 30 US$ each,new !


        pure       sine wave 12/220 V inverter need     ?      3 KW                                                   90 US$






        + charger !? http://www.bticcs.com/   were also sold by conradelectronics   https://www.conrad.de/de/c/ladegeraete-14719.html


        Kit-+ software costs for DIY 2021 ? individual/bulk price !

And no worry,I read the Ozkan publication correctly : there 12 VDC/110 VAC

220 AC Volt in average - network losts = working 200 AC + and - Volt  - real negative power factor ( from source/back to source circuit) = 100 + Volts = 100 "historical " cells" called Daniell-Elements

the battery better cells-battery/-group  represents the nuclear,gas,coal,solar,wind,... power plant

inverter,charger = provider electronical distribtion network




modified Rust-verter + Ozkan battery-set + https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=15379


Ferreira cap-winding motor + Ozkan battery-set +   "    "    "    "   "


Ferreira cap-winding motor-generator couple + Ozkan battery-set


the variation potential is nearly limitless for limitless range mobility


and "open source" = NO MONOPOL-energy/electricity industry anymore


This drive system micronizing for smartbike

like https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor-Doping


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://ebike-news.de/ultraleichtes-e-bike-mit-97-kg-rennrad-vivax-veloce/1685/






850 Gr. weight for nominal 100 W continuous/ 200 W peak   ,depends clearly from rated RPM and Voltage  !


https://www.bikeradar.com/reviews/bikes/electric-bikes/gruber-assist-kit-review/  we read  at its maximum setting of 90rpm[/font][/size]



Schiller PAM motor :  rated  1   KW  3000 RPM for 12 Volt = 2 Kg


                               rated  0,1 KW  3000 RPM                = 0.2 Kg 


                               rated  0,1 KW and 3000 to 1. 1500 RPM  to 2. 750 RPM  to 3. 375 RPM  to 187,5 RPM 

                                                                      to 100 RPM

                               5 x weight doubling steps =     6,4 Kg              higher Voltage lesser weight

                                From mass production to each unit selling price 250 Euros


                               The Gruber micromotor kit price ( low production serie )  : 1800 Euros

                               Decreaseable by margin factor 6-8 to 1,5 = 1800/5 x0,5 mass production costs advantage

                               = 180 Euros per kit ( without battery)


                               Economical comparison :

                               The circa 50 Euros Li Yng 4x conventional 4 cheap toy-micromotor transmission

                                equates actually this weight decrease by power savings,1800 Euros misinvestment !

                             






https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/europe-warehouse-cheap-wholesale-adult-portable-foldable-folding-standing-two-wheel-battery-electrico-e-electric-scooters-62582820699.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.4ff938acHcsCTX&s=p


or


https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/freego-es-18-36v-motor-brushless-e-bike-loading-120kg-three-wheels-ce-approved-e-bike-trikes-1600095399728.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.4ff938acHcsCTX


as citycart minimum  ;)   who needs enclosed spaces  ;D


  there is no such thing as bad weather, just wrong clothes

lancaIV

About etrikes battery life-time ,especially lithium-related :

https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-lithium-based-batteries

assumption 15 000 Km per year and 500 Wh/25 Kg with for example 100 US$/KWh LiFEPo battery


with 3000 cycles as Ozkan-battery set source :


3000 x 0,8 net KWh = 2400 KWh/KWh battery


15 000 Km/25 Km = 600 x 0,5 KWh = 300 KWh per year consume and 2400 KWh/300 KWh = 8 years longitivity


with 250 US$/KWh Lithium Titan Oxid battery and 25 000 cycles = net up to 70 years longitivity


or etrike net e-motor power increase alternative or higher drive range per annum




Alu-graphene battery with 250 000 charge cycles : high motor power,high drive range per annum and longitivity = all in one






                                    storage costs without electricity calculation


LiFePo are with 30 US$cents per cycle several times over b2b electricity costs about 5,5 US$cents/KWh gridprice US


LithiumTitanOxid ( LTO) with 1 US$cent per cycle under b2b electricity costs,25 000/40 000 charge cycles


Kilowattlabs superbattery commercial actually with 0,1 US$cent/KWh the lowest electricity storage costs,1 000 000 charge cycles








                                                        2015 in the news ( for the beyond Lithium society )

New battery charges in under a minute and still performs perfectly after being recharged thousands of times


https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/super-fast-charging-aluminium-batteries-ready-to-take-on-lithium/8427.article

This battery lost very little of its storage capacity after 7000 cycles, making it far superior even to lithium-ion batteries, which last for about 1000 cycles. Perhaps most remarkably, the battery can safely be completely recharged in less than 60 seconds.

                                                        2021 for comparison


https://www.pv-magazine.com/2021/04/29/graphene-aluminum-ion-batteries-with-ultra-fast-charging/


https://www.azonano.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=5753


GMG plans to bring a graphene aluminum-ion coin cell to market in late 2021 or early 2022.
These can fully charge in under one minute


battery VAh /loader W  ratio  for this short time ?


we see some other battery improvements anode and cathode related :


https://www.nanograf.com/


https://biosolar.com/


https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13385 20 US$/Kg 100 000 cc and 2 US$/Kg 10 000 cc

Price for 1 Kg aluminium and graphit/graphene/silicon battery ? With 10 000 - 250 000 charge cycles ?




https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.ewe-go.de/blog/magazin/schnellladesaeulen_ein_ueberblick/



CCS (Combo 2) : This is the European standard. This type of plug usually enables a charging power of mostly 50 to 200 kW, and up to 300 kW on turbo fast charging stations


CHAdeMO : This type of plug can be found on many Asian electric vehicles.
CHAdeMO offers up to 100 kW charging power.



https://www.log9materials.com/


2000 Wh battery with 8000 W load in 15 minutes full 

                                4000 W load in 30 minutes

                                1500 W load in 80 minutes conventional power socket


             
                                            for commercial delivery and mobile-share  entities :


the 8000 W fast load ( from 1500 W socket ) can be realized based by Dr.Imris his electric transformer, nominal 8 KW for 1500 Euros


the 4000 W fast load  (from 1500 W socket ) can be realized          by Tanaka Saburo his transformer set ,nominal 5 KW for 500 Euros

lancaIV

" .... LiFePo are with 30 US$cents per cycle several times over b2b electricity costs about 5,5 US$cents/KWh gridprice US ... "


This 30US$cent/charge cycle gives us one alibaba-seller as information,not by me calculated !


In a LIFePo/Lead costs per cycle comparison !


Misterious : for its 90 US$/KWh capacity and given 3000 charge cycles claiming !

                           9000 US$cents / 3000 charge cycles = 3 US$cents per charge cycle !


                           Calculation error ?


                           Under ? % DOD condition,US$/KWh storage cycle ?

                   
                           " Long Life Cycle" under DOD %
                            https://sc04.alicdn.com/kf/H02430787f3de4dd5918e57fe8b850d601/252429187/H02430787f3de4dd5918e57fe8b850d601.jpg

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Lithium-Battery-Deep-Cycle-3000-Lfp_1600325477370.html?spm=a2700.7735675.normal_offer.d_title.674720f8TasyxB&s=p

250 US$/KWh Lithium Titan Oxid and 25 000 charge cycles : US$/charge cycle ? US$/KWh storage cycle ? ? % DOD charge cycle ?

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Lithium-Titanate-Lto-Battery-Lto-Lto_62266056381.html?spm=a2700.7735675.normal_offer.d_title.1c4620f8byl6Il&s=p

for the same battery given charge cycles  ::)

1.  Cycle life:  3,000 times


2.    Long Circle Life :
80% capacity after 25,000 times life for 100% DOD charging/discharging.  First 10 years used on electrical vehicles and also another 20 years on energy storage system products.

250 US$/KWh capacity / 3000 cc    or    / 25 000 cc ?  8,33 cents per KWh or 1 cent per KWh ?! Storage costs !

The industry does not offer compareable and detailed numbers !

lancaIV


2000 Wh battery in 15 minutes fast charging

https://www.log9materials.com/




to 1 minute super-fast charging

https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/super-fast-charging-aluminium-batteries-ready-to-take-on-lithium/8427.article


https://www.pv-magazine.com/2021/04/29/graphene-aluminum-ion-batteries-with-ultra-fast-charging/




to load-/battery exchange center concept :


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.24auto.de/news/neuheiten/acm-city-one-elektro-wechsel-akkus-adaptive-city-mobility-muenchen-preis-reichweite-90900048.html

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.eon.de/de/pk/e-mobility/ladestation-elektroauto.html




and the question : useable as super-fast charging generator/s


https://patents.google.com/patent/US8847720B2/en



Generator Rating Per Hour and Observations
The cyclic output per second is multiplied by 3600 to indicate the generator's hourly rating.
Thus, at 400 Hz=60.7 Kva/h;
at 800 Hz=121.4 Kva/h;
at 3 KHz=460.8 Kva/h;
at 6 KHz=921.6 Kva/h;
at 60 KHz=9.26 Mw/h;
at 600 KLHz=92.166 Kw/h;
at 780 KHz=119.7 Mw/h.
A large home typically requires 15-20 Kva AC; an electric automobile 20-30 Kva DC.




and/or


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19881020&CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1
From the above example it is evident that, with a coil 82 having 5000 ampere windings, a flux variation of 5000000 ampere windings can be generated with the superconducting coil 84.
Accordingly, a generated power of 990 kW can be drawn from the terminals 89 for a power supplied to the connecting terminals 88 of 1 .
1 kW, and this corresponds to a power gain of approximately a factor of 1000.


Private household load stations are in the up to 22 KW range,public station in Europe up to 300 KW



The two above shown publications are with beyond the public 300 KW potential !


In future private household electricity tanking/depositing like actually butan-/propangas bottles exchange by battery change (empty  bringing and full taking ) or own battery super-fast in average "less 1 minute" load/charge !