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RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.

Started by seychelles, December 18, 2021, 10:54:04 AM

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captainpecan

Quote from: Floor on January 09, 2022, 05:44:17 PM
@ captianpecan / all builders.

While some of you all ready know how to do this, any, might benefit
from a review of the files.


Perfect, thank you.

captainpecan

Food for thought. Here is a theory I will be adding to my testing.


This 1+1=3 concept, seems others who tried replicating it, were no longer successful after switching a magnet for the electromagnet. Or at least from what others have said in here, they were less successful to transfer the effect into getting extra out while running. Or possibly they are but not able to really see what they were hoping for.... taking this into account brings up a few questions for me I would like to test as I go along.


1. Has anyone been able to actually show the effect is still present when both a permanent magnet and an electromagnet are used at the same time? Does the effect of getting more than double increase and decrease according to how much power is sent to the coil as one would assume, or does it not duplicate, and just increase linearly.


2. Following the assumption that the entire effect is due to magnetic field alone, and not whether or not it is a permanent magnet or an electromagnet, then why use a permanent magnet at all? Why not 2 electromagnets? Just a theory of course, but having both electromagnets, you may be able to get the same effect but the ability to turn off both magnetic fields so we do not have to pull the rotor from the permanent magnet. Possibly a quick pulse through both getting more than double pull into the gap, and near zero while leaving. Therefor being able to actually use all of the increase from the effect.


3. Why not now move the permanent magnets to the back side of the 2 electromagnets. Both electromagnets are facing each other with repulsive pulses exactly like the permanent magnets, but the permanent magnets are still used, just attached to the opposite sides of the electromagnets. From my experiments prior, simply sticking a permanent magnet to the back side of the electromagnet will magnetically assist the electromagnet greatly. How much I've never actually measured. But I do know increasing the strength of the permanent magnet does in fact increase the strength of the electromagnet field for no extra power input.


Maybe we can make that single pulse magnetically assisted to really increase its power, while at the same time getting the benefit from the 1+1=3 effect???


I'm just getting my thoughts out here. What do you think? I plan on testing all this as soon as I get the electagnets made.

Floor

@captainpecan

First order of business, the force over the course of travel measurements.

Second order of business ....

Did anyone test to see or demonstrate that their electromagnet was equal to
the neo. magnet ?  I mean something simple like a lifting test out side of the
tin man fixture ?

captainpecan

Quote from: Floor on January 10, 2022, 05:49:50 PM
@captainpecan

Did anyone test to see or demonstrate that their electromagnet was equal to
the neo. magnet ?  I mean somthing simple like a lifting test out side of the
tinman fixture ?


Exactly... see, I haven't heard of anyone stating that they have. I intend to do just that. It may be a huge factor, who knows. We should at least be able to rule it out as being crucial or not with a fairly easy test.

Floor

Yep, that would be a big factor all right.