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Overunity Machines Forum



RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.

Started by seychelles, December 18, 2021, 10:54:04 AM

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wopwops

Looking forward to it all coming out, Tinman. Thanks for all of your hard work over the years.

Floor

@ all readers

I think that using a broader torque plate (a long pass between two electromagnets)
can give more power out.  The magnets would need to remain energized for a
longer period of time but then higher RPM s will reduce the electromagnet on time
as well. 

There is a limit to how broad the torque plate can be while still giving an output
power increase.

P.S.
The use of electromagnets which are broader along the direction of the plane of
rotation should also be profitable.

captainpecan

@ Tinman,

Great to see you in here dropping info. I have done the best I could to see the effect your motor appears to work with. My device is a bit ghetto, but I have seen some promising tests already. I have had very little info to go on. All I know is the small amount in this thread. I have been very grateful for the bits of knowledge and breadcrumbs getting dropped in here. I look forward to hearing and seeing much of the missing info I've been wanting to see. I've chosen 30 awg wire I was winding my electromagnets with but I will hold up for a couple days to see what you put out. Maybe even thinner is better? Thanks again for all you do. Can't wait to see what's ahead.

captainpecan

Quote from: Floor on January 21, 2022, 01:27:36 AM
@ all readers

I think that using a broader torque plate (a long pass between two electromagnets)
can give more power out.  The magnets would need to remain energized for a
longer period of time...


I'm trying to understand your reasoning on this one a bit better. Are you thinking with a wider plate, you may get a slightly longer peak on the torque curve? I'm holding up a bit on my electromagnets to see what Tinman has to say. But if I understand your thoughts, I may be able to put together a quick test for you with my existing setup if just permanent magnets would work. I would just have to go find me a wider plate to put on the rotor. My magnets and stuff are still in exact positions as my last tests so comparisons would be very close.

Floor

Quote from: captainpecan on January 21, 2022, 02:16:54 AM

I'm trying to understand your reasoning on this one a bit better. Are you thinking with a wider plate, you may get a slightly longer peak on the torque curve? I'm holding up a bit on my electromagnets to see what Tinman has to say. But if I understand your thoughts, I may be able to put together a quick test for you with my existing setup if just permanent magnets would work. I would just have to go find me a wider plate to put on the rotor. My magnets and stuff are still in exact positions as my last tests so comparisons would be very close.

Yes exactly and testing with the permanent magnets would work.
                       With a wider plate, I'm thinking that....
you may get a longer     nearly at      peak force on the torque curve.

If you don't mind / are so inclinde to do that test.

Much wider, maybe 6x.  This might not be the optimal width but it will still give
an indication as to wether or not this is correct.


P.S.
Zero degrees would then be with the magnet/s centered along the torque plate.