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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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Gustav22

Hi Rosphere

Quote from: Rosphere on July 12, 2007, 01:11:25 PM
.....three feet total length for each of the dual leads.  Placing my CC's as above would mean one foot spacings along the total three foot length....

Yes. I think this makes sense.

I want to also stress two other points which I consider important for a successful ECD replication:

1.) According to my understanding one CC has to be placed directly at/near point PHASE
AND point PHASE has to be directly at/near the bend of the loop (i.e. the bend between the big and the small circle of the collector).

2.)
Quote from: Rosphere on July 12, 2007, 01:11:25 PM
...I connect the 6" outer-loop and 4" inner-loop with about 2.3" lengths of wire per side ...

By doing this, you are changing the "total collector length" .

I doubt that this is beneficial.
It may be better to not fully "close" the two circles (to "save wire length" which you can then use for the "bend")
and NOT to augment the theoretical total collector length (31,4" = 79,79cm).

Hopefully Otto/Roberto will comment.

PS I hope you find honey  ;)
money for rope

Hoppy

Hi Kosmoss

I fully understand your skepticism, as I too share some of your views. However, nobody can prove to another that this TPU either works or does not work in the way SM shows on his videos. It's up to each individual to prove the concept to themselves.

My view having read everything available and experimented myself is that the operation of this device as shown in the videos was faked, using a concealed power supply. However, that does not mean that that I don't hold out hope that the TPU can be made to work without the aid of assisted power. This is what many on this forum are working hard to achieve and I applaud their efforts. I'm sure several of them have their own inner doubts about the validity of SM's videos. Unless SM is prepared to reveal all and substantiate his claim to the point that others can successfully replicate his device(s), then we all have the right to state any opinion we wish on a public forum.

I and others have repeatedly called for Otto and Roberto to carry out some proper tests to establish the true power consumption of the device when powering the lamp load. They know the importance of doing this if nothing else but to confirm to themeselves that it is more than induction lighting their lamp. Their documentation is very good but unfortunately lacks this vital information.

Clive

otto

Hello all,

@Gustav22

To your point 1 - yes thats it for the 1. control coil

To your point 2 - youre right - the outer ring and the inner ring MUST BE CONNECTED DIRECTLY!!!!!! or you changed the lenght of the collectors. If you missed this lenght than you missed the 6" TPU!!!! End result - NOTHING!!!

@Hoppy

youre talking about power consumption. Hmmm....in this moment is my power consumption really big.
You and all mst know that we are learning how to build proper coils, how to connect them, how to pulse them......

Its a big and dangerous job. But I saw for a few seconds what a 6" TPU can do when it gets out of control and since then I know whats about such a device.
This means its worth every second that I was working on it and this means that I will NEVER give up. If I need 1 month or 10 years, its worth to rediscover this technology.

Otto

Gustav22

Quote from: otto on July 13, 2007, 04:31:05 AM
...If you missed this lenght than you missed the 6" TPU!!!! End result - NOTHING!!!

Thanks for this clarification.
;)

@all
Here is a list of "promising" wire lengths & ratios used by Otto/Roberto on the 6" ECD. I collected these figures from some of their previous postings:


itemlength [inch]length [cm]cm roundedRATIO
4" collector12.5631,91322
6" collector18.8447,88 48 3
total collector31.41 79,79805
CC primary124.831732020
CC secondary629.916001600100

Personal note:
I expect that different relationships between wire lengths lead to favoring of different harmonics in the resulting signal.
money for rope

otto

Hello all,

@Gustav22

the ratios are nice but the last 1600 = 100 MUST and will be changed.

Lets talk about Tesla and Erfinder:

both sayd that the ratio of primaries and secondaries should be 1 : 1 IN WEIGHT!!!!!

A long time ago I wound a little transformer like our controls and used the same weight for primary and secondary coil. This you can reed on Erfinders posts.

End result: I connected 1 bulb on my coil and the voltage dropped a 1/3. Then I connected another bulb and the VOLTAGE AND CURRENT didnt drop!!!! All my analog instruments didnt show any reaction when I connected the 2. bulb.

In my latest tests I saw that really short wires for a control coil are needed.
You remember the open TPU??? I counted arround 15 - 20 turns of lamp wire for every segment. There are 4 segments pulsed with the Tesla patent 390721....

Today I measured the weight of wires. Here are the results, if somebody wants them:

Weight for 10 cm lenght of wire:

wire diameter 0,65mm, weight 0,29 gramms
wire diameter 0,50mm, weight 0,17 gramms
wire diameter 0,35mm, weight 0,07 gramms

I hope this helps a little.

Otto