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hydroxy powered motor

Started by Motorcoach1, July 21, 2007, 05:55:58 PM

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Bruce_TPU

#15
July 22, 2007, 02:19:30 PM
Hi Mike,

Nice looking design!

Just a quick question, not to throw cold water on the motor (every pun intended!  ;D )

The GGE (gallon gas equivelency) for Hydrogen only is about 11,000 Liters.  For combination Hydrogen, Oxygen = Hydroxy, the GGE is about 16,500 Liters.

Now, this means that if a vehicle gets 30 miles to the gallon of gas, and is traveling at 60 miles per hour, then to replace those two gallons of gas used in that 60 minute time frame, with hydroxy, it would require 33,000 LPH (Liters per hour) of Hydroxy gas.  This translates to 550 LPM (Liters per minute)  Now, at 2.4 WPH (Watts per hour) to produce 1 liter of gas, you would need a phenomonal amount of Electricity to make it work.  And with that much electricity needed, just  make an electric engine and power it by a series of TPU's.  The math on hydroxy does NOT add up no matter how you slice it or dice it.  I spent considerable time working with hydroxy before the TPU and the math NEVER adds up.  EVEN with overunity, several times over... Even if your motor is super efficient, with no heat waste, do a calculation of horsepower to hydroxy and the math still does not add up.

The best use of hydroxy use in the automotive industry, in my humble opinion, is as a "supplement" or "additive" to the IC engine.  Fuel efficiency can be increased up to 20%, and the electrical power is sufficient with a properly designed cell.

I don't want to discourage you, it is a cool idea.  I just am trying to bring the reality of hydroxy to bare.  It took me a long time to realize it.  But it is fun!

We need more power!  That was/is my conclusion, so, back to TPU Land with me!  LOL

Highest regards,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

IronHead

#16
July 22, 2007, 06:48:24 PM
Interesting.

Motorcoach1

#17
July 22, 2007, 08:06:00 PM
@ Bruce thank you for your input. this engine is one cycle that gets rid of 3 strokes as in a conventional ICE type power plant. On demand Hydroxy is a much more powerful gas than a stored gas. The other thing is most vaporized fuels will operate this engine and that can be delt with at a later time. Fireing all six cylinders at one time, due to how small they are it still uses less than say one large cylinder of a 406 cid ford engine. i'm looking Closely at BB"s cell and feel it will run this style of engine most efficiently, He has a fourm in Yahoo about hydroxy and lots of good information is there by other posters. Ã,   progress is slow but it's still progress 99% persperationÃ,  ;DÃ,  Ã,  Ã,  Ã,   PS I feel that the gas (liquid) and hydroxy formulas are not as accurat as they should be,Ã,  liquid is liquidÃ,  and gas vapor is gas vapor and stiil feel it should be formulated that way. I feel some folks have used this as a misdirection in the devlopment of the fuel as useful. :o --- lets put gas on the space shuddel and see how that would work hahaha  Mike - out side the box

IronHead

#18
July 22, 2007, 08:31:39 PM
Thank you , I had to delete what I said . You know the old Iron in my head kicking in sometimes .
Thanks Coach.

Super God

#19
July 22, 2007, 11:08:32 PM
And with that new Meyer's cell thingy it could be realized :D  I'm planning on converting my 95' cutlass to an HHO vehicle.  I'm just not sure how much hydrogen you need to run a 3.1 liter engine...

P.S. How are we going to find out the redline for this bad boy? :D  I can make a rev limiter circuit for it :D
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