Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[canam101]

Never forget, SMOT so far provides the only scientifically sound proof that CoE can be violated and that energy out of no source (out of nothing) can be produced. Everything else is speculation, hits in the dark a lot of incompetence and even outright fraud, as the recent events indicate.

How could we possibly forget with you around? Anybody ever say you sound like a broken record?

LOL

[Omnibus]

Hi Omnibus
I think that because I havn't seen one working thats not a hoax, I havnt been able to make magnets spin continusly with out adding extra force or changing the fields in rotation and science says it can't be done.
Take Care Omnibus
Graham

Never mind the hoax part. You're obsessed not to be accused of that and I already told you that no one has ever blamed you to be a hoaxer.

As for science, indeed, science says that magnets cannot spin continuously without adding an extra force when only one time-independent field is used. This is exactly the case with your so called "tri-force" concept and that is why it isn't of any interest when figuring out ways to construct a pmm. I have told you that numerous times. As far a its role as a propulsor, it is trivial. Like I said, there are numerous other more efficient and better understood way of magnetic propulsion.

Therefore, again, science says that a construction such as "tri-force" has not potential in the search for a working pmm and should be abandoned, unless combined with something else, if at all.

As far as, violation of CoE and production of energy out of no source (out of nothing), science says it's possible and one may think that it's a prerequisite for a working pmm. That has to be understood better, however. Proving violation of CoE is not a small deal but whether or not it can be implemented to construct a working pmm is to be studied.  Proving violation of CoE is just a start if one's goal is a working pmm.

[Rusty_Springs]

That SMOT video shows nothing we havn't see and as has been pointed out it doesn't release at the end ofcause it would shot another steelball out if it was connected to the last magnet and they hit each other.
I showed a video of a steelball going straight up just using neomagnets joined together, I had the steelball in a plastic tube and every time I moved the ball close to the magnets it would go straight up why it does this is because iron wants to move around with the flux to the centre of one pole of the magnet, its like trying to push a nail into a magnet on its edge it wont go it trys to move to the face or the centre of one pole, what ever side of the face its on it will move to that pole, you can make it touch the edge and it will stay but getting it to touch the edge takes alot of force.
The nail moves in both directions so you have to set something up at the right angle to bring a nail in in a rotating system but if you do that then you have the problem of releasing it at the end same with the SMOT its not hard bringing the steelball in but releasing it at the end is a different story and it needs to be in the magnetic field to get any movment but with the Trigate you can bring it in and release it at the end.
I could be wrong but in science having a magnet lift a piece of steel straight up is not doing work and isn't that what the SMOT is doing except with alot of magnets taking turns lifting the steelball.
This is where you can see that video I talked about http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/minatowheel/files/ the name of the file is RollingUpHillBallBearing.WMV
Take Care All
Graham

[Omnibus]

That SMOT video shows nothing we havn't see and as has been pointed out it doesn't release at the end ofcause it would shot another steelball out if it was connected to the last magnet and they hit each other.
I showed a video of a steelball going straight up just using neomagnets joined together, I had the steelball in a plastic tube and every time I moved the ball close to the magnets it would go straight up why it does this is because iron wants to move around with the flux to the centre of one pole of the magnet, its like trying to push a nail into a magnet on its edge it wont go it trys to move to the face or the centre of one pole, what ever side of the face its on it will move to that pole, you can make it touch the edge and it will stay but getting it to touch the edge takes alot of force.
The nail moves in both directions so you have to set something up at the right angle to bring a nail in in a rotating system but if you do that then you have the problem of releasing it at the end same with the SMOT its not hard bringing the steelball in but releasing it at the end is a different story and it needs to be in the magnetic field to get any movment but with the Trigate you can bring it in and release it at the end.
I could be wrong but in science having a magnet lift a piece of steel straight up is not doing work and isn't that what the SMOT is doing except with alot of magnets taking turns lifting the steelball.
This is where you can see that video I talked about http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/minatowheel/files/ the name of the file is RollingUpHillBallBearing.WMV
Take Care All
Graham

That video isn't a video of a SMOT. You have understood it incorrectly. In SMOT the imparted energy is less than the energy the object has available to transform into other energies and that's a clear violation of CoE. This is the definitively established effect that may have ramifications in constructing a pmm.

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi All
I'm not on my computer so I can't access my videos but I also did a video show how you can repel iron, using a nail I placed it between the edges in the centre of two sets of block magnet with the faces being opposite and the nail moved along then kicked out, the effect was the same as my Trigate but you had to start the nail in the centre of the two blocks of magnet because it wouldn't come in the flux is pushing it to the faces comming in and in doing so is stopping it from comming in, start it in the middle and it moves along then kicks out.
This is a easy experiment just get two block magnets and place a nail between them and keep moving the magnets towards the nail and when you have it right you will see the nail trying to move away from the magnets.
Take Care All
Graham