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Magnetic Power Inc - second Patent pending

Started by ckreol1, February 24, 2008, 12:41:29 PM

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pennies_everywhere

Resonanceman, what information do you think you got from that supposed update?

Mark told us: 

* The Magnetics Conference dropped MPI.  Ckreol1 already told us that.
* He doesn't have anything in validation testing.  They never have.
* An incredible story about how MPI had in their hands scientific proof of the greatest development perhaps of all time, but due to a shorted wire, they binned it and moved on to other ideas.  In other words, MPI isn't very interested in trying to prove their claims. From their prior behavior, they never have.
* They have devices that supposedly show energy from some unknown source, yet the distinguishing behavior doesn't support that claim.  This has been going on for more than a year.
* MPI has a second patent application for something different.  ckreol1 told us that months ago.
* They do not have any self-running devices.  They never have.
* They have mechanical devices they claim are OU.  However they don't submit these devices to third party test.  They never have.

So if you think there is something new there, I'd sure like to know what it is.  All I see is the same old, same old, of: big promises, lame excuses, and no results. 

If someday someone comes across a major development like discovery of a new energy source as MPI has now claimed for years, it will not matter how crude the device.  It will not matter how viable or not the device is for commercial application.  All that will matter will be the ability to confirm the new energy source through qualified independent test.  Once that happens, the resources available to the inventor(s) will be essentially limitless.  You really ought to ask yourself why perpetually cash strapped MPI goes to such great pains to avoid testing.  You really ought to ask yourself why MPI never closes those big investment deals they talk about year after year after year.


Grumpy

Quote from: pennies_everywhere on April 24, 2008, 06:49:22 AM
Resonanceman, what information do you think you got from that supposed update?

Mark told us: 

* The Magnetics Conference dropped MPI.  Ckreol1 already told us that.
* He doesn't have anything in validation testing.  They never have.
* An incredible story about how MPI had in their hands scientific proof of the greatest development perhaps of all time, but due to a shorted wire, they binned it and moved on to other ideas.  In other words, MPI isn't very interested in trying to prove their claims. From their prior behavior, they never have.
* They have devices that supposedly show energy from some unknown source, yet the distinguishing behavior doesn't support that claim.  This has been going on for more than a year.
* MPI has a second patent application for something different.  ckreol1 told us that months ago.
* They do not have any self-running devices.  They never have.
* They have mechanical devices they claim are OU.  However they don't submit these devices to third party test.  They never have.

So if you think there is something new there, I'd sure like to know what it is.  All I see is the same old, same old, of: big promises, lame excuses, and no results. 

If someday someone comes across a major development like discovery of a new energy source as MPI has now claimed for years, it will not matter how crude the device.  It will not matter how viable or not the device is for commercial application.  All that will matter will be the ability to confirm the new energy source through qualified independent test.  Once that happens, the resources available to the inventor(s) will be essentially limitless.  You really ought to ask yourself why perpetually cash strapped MPI goes to such great pains to avoid testing.  You really ought to ask yourself why MPI never closes those big investment deals they talk about year after year after year.


Pennies,

Why do you give a shit what MPI does?  It's not your money.  Nor is it in rememberance of your late brother "Hans".  Do you keep up this charade becuase Cyril and Dee both gave you a swift ass-kicking along with a dose of real physics?  Is it because you are a perpetual loser, stuck in a dead-end job, with nothing better to do than wave the banner of "poppycock"?

So, why don;t you get off your ass, get drunk, get laid - and then see if you still give a rats-ass about MPI.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

pennies_everywhere

Grumpy frauds make for good circus entertainment.  It's really rather astounding.

Poor Cyril's still confusing the solution of a specific integral for the expression of the integral itself.  His horrific accounting has him spewing nonsense about how it's easy to get free energy, it's just you don't really get it, because nature secretly "claws it back".  That's just indefensible pseudo-science drivel.  Or perhaps you failed to notice that Cyril's silly ideas about SE magnetics haven't earned him any professional notice. 

If you like MPI, defend them with facts.  Attacking me doesn't deliver on MPI's long string of broken promises.  Neither does it give any credibility to MPI's bunk.  If you want real revenge on me, take all your money, and all the money you can borrow and hand it over to Mark Goldes.  He'll be sure to reward you with just what you deserve.

Quote from: Grumpy on April 24, 2008, 09:21:38 AM
Quote from: pennies_everywhere on April 24, 2008, 06:49:22 AM
Resonanceman, what information do you think you got from that supposed update?

Mark told us: 

* The Magnetics Conference dropped MPI.  Ckreol1 already told us that.
* He doesn't have anything in validation testing.  They never have.
* An incredible story about how MPI had in their hands scientific proof of the greatest development perhaps of all time, but due to a shorted wire, they binned it and moved on to other ideas.  In other words, MPI isn't very interested in trying to prove their claims. From their prior behavior, they never have.
* They have devices that supposedly show energy from some unknown source, yet the distinguishing behavior doesn't support that claim.  This has been going on for more than a year.
* MPI has a second patent application for something different.  ckreol1 told us that months ago.
* They do not have any self-running devices.  They never have.
* They have mechanical devices they claim are OU.  However they don't submit these devices to third party test.  They never have.

So if you think there is something new there, I'd sure like to know what it is.  All I see is the same old, same old, of: big promises, lame excuses, and no results. 

If someday someone comes across a major development like discovery of a new energy source as MPI has now claimed for years, it will not matter how crude the device.  It will not matter how viable or not the device is for commercial application.  All that will matter will be the ability to confirm the new energy source through qualified independent test.  Once that happens, the resources available to the inventor(s) will be essentially limitless.  You really ought to ask yourself why perpetually cash strapped MPI goes to such great pains to avoid testing.  You really ought to ask yourself why MPI never closes those big investment deals they talk about year after year after year.


Pennies,

Why do you give a shit what MPI does?  It's not your money.  Nor is it in rememberance of your late brother "Hans".  Do you keep up this charade becuase Cyril and Dee both gave you a swift ass-kicking along with a dose of real physics?  Is it because you are a perpetual loser, stuck in a dead-end job, with nothing better to do than wave the banner of "poppycock"?

So, why don;t you get off your ass, get drunk, get laid - and then see if you still give a rats-ass about MPI.

Grumpy

Where is the fraud in this?  MPI has made no "promises", no "guarantees".  You invest your money - which is yours to do as you wish - in hopes that MPI will be able to develop a product that is profitable netting you a large return on your investment.  This is no different than any other "investment".  If you can not handle the risk - don't make the investment.

Time for that drink, Pennies.





Quote from: pennies_everywhere on April 24, 2008, 09:34:30 AM
Grumpy frauds make for good circus entertainment.  It's really rather astounding.

Poor Cyril's still confusing the solution of a specific integral for the expression of the integral itself.  His horrific accounting has him spewing nonsense about how it's easy to get free energy, it's just you don't really get it, because nature secretly "claws it back".  That's just indefensible pseudo-science drivel.  Or perhaps you failed to notice that Cyril's silly ideas about SE magnetics haven't earned him any professional notice. 

If you like MPI, defend them with facts.  Attacking me doesn't deliver on MPI's long string of broken promises.  Neither does it give any credibility to MPI's bunk.  If you want real revenge on me, take all your money, and all the money you can borrow and hand it over to Mark Goldes.  He'll be sure to reward you with just what you deserve.

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

pennies_everywhere

Grumpy the fraud is both blatant and brazen.  Since at least 2004 MPI has consistently claimed posession of technologies they do not have, and know that they do not have.  They have used those false claims to attract and obtain investments.  MPI has materially benefitted from those investments.  Those circumstances meet all five legal tests for fraud.

Quote from: Grumpy on April 24, 2008, 09:46:31 AM
Where is the fraud in this?  MPI has made no "promises", no "guarantees".  You invest your money - which is yours to do as you wish - in hopes that MPI will be able to develop a product that is profitable netting you a large return on your investment.  This is no different than any other "investment".  If you can not handle the risk - don't make the investment.

Time for that drink, Pennies.





Quote from: pennies_everywhere on April 24, 2008, 09:34:30 AM
Grumpy frauds make for good circus entertainment.  It's really rather astounding.

Poor Cyril's still confusing the solution of a specific integral for the expression of the integral itself.  His horrific accounting has him spewing nonsense about how it's easy to get free energy, it's just you don't really get it, because nature secretly "claws it back".  That's just indefensible pseudo-science drivel.  Or perhaps you failed to notice that Cyril's silly ideas about SE magnetics haven't earned him any professional notice. 

If you like MPI, defend them with facts.  Attacking me doesn't deliver on MPI's long string of broken promises.  Neither does it give any credibility to MPI's bunk.  If you want real revenge on me, take all your money, and all the money you can borrow and hand it over to Mark Goldes.  He'll be sure to reward you with just what you deserve.