bessler wheel principle solved?

[gurangax]

Hi Chad

Nice thinking, but if maybe you can simplify the design will give a better chance for it to be bessler's because his design was said on 3 occassion that it was very simple in construction. I will share my best design so far soon.

All the best
-Charles

[Chad]

Hi Chad

Nice thinking, but if maybe you can simplify the design will give a better chance for it to be bessler's because his design was said on 3 occassion that it was very simple in construction. I will share my best design so far soon.

All the best
-Charles

Hi charles

this may or may not be the design but i dont think were a million miles off but who knows?.

The design is a simple one, dont let the look of it scare you, bessler's wheel was said to producce 8 bumps per rotation wich would indicate only 4 cross-bars wich would look like the picture below



it doesnt look quite as intimidating now does it, now try and imagine it with only one cross-bar even simpler, bessler said the wheel:-

1, with only one Cross-bar could bearly turn by itself
2, it contained "Weights"
3, it contained "pullys"

He said it was "resplendant as a peacocks tail".

He said the at "its basis of motion, many separate pieces of lead. These come in pairs, such that as one of them takes up an outer position, the other takes up a position nearer the axle. Later, they swap places, and so they go on and on changing places all the time"

i just have some more testing to do with regards to a pendulum as a power source or as an integrating source for the wheel.

Thanks

Chad.

[Alexioco]

Hi charles

this may or may not be the design but i dont think were a million miles off but who knows?.

The design is a simple one, dont let the look of it scare you, bessler's wheel was said to producce 8 bumps per rotation wich would indicate only 4 cross-bars wich would look like the picture below



it doesnt look quite as intimidating now does it, now try and imagine it with only one cross-bar even simpler, bessler said the wheel:-

1, with only one Cross-bar could bearly turn by itself
2, it contained "Weights"
3, it contained "pullys"

He said it was "resplendant as a peacocks tail".

He said the at "its basis of motion, many separate pieces of lead. These come in pairs, such that as one of them takes up an outer position, the other takes up a position nearer the axle. Later, they swap places, and so they go on and on changing places all the time"

i just have some more testing to do with regards to a pendulum as a power source or as an integrating source for the wheel.

Thanks

Chad.

That is good, now we need to work on this to make it more simple and I belive there are a few things missing here... Springs are needed because when they have bent so far, they fling "upwards" whichs is something of use to any perpetual wheel and also a scissor jack which a small movement on one side makes a large one the other side which might have something to do with teh 4 -1 ratio...

This doesnt mean the wheel is going to get more complicated, things just need to be taken and swaped maybe added here and there until you have the basic mechanism which then can be made more simple...


Alex

Edit: The little weights that are attached by the lever also need attching to eachother so they help pull eachother up, even better still now...

Second Edit: Mind if I put a few improvments?

Here is a way to make the weights do more...



when they weights are lifted by the pendulum plus the selves they pull the cross bar up, when they go in at the bottom, they push the crossbar up... (mt 25)

by the way, the little weights can be made slightly lighter than the rods and they will still lift, there are reasons why which I will explain sometime on this post...

springs are now needed, scissor jacks and a way to make the little weights to go closer to the axle...

[Chad]

nice Alex,

Is the flip weight on the left hand side resting on the cross-bar or is it the tension in the string holding it there?, idealy we could do with getting that weight to lie down to increase the imbalance on the right side.

Chad.

[AB Hammer]

OK

Here is what we are going to have to do.

First we need a wheel blank and a pendulum with a top roller end.

How big do we want to make it? I suggest a two foot wheel for the base wheel, but a 2 1/2 ft for Alex style so there is a place to mount on.

We have to make the parts or purchase other parts that will work.

Now we also have to look at this as a hammer wheel as well as a slide wheel. Friction is going to be bugger not to mention are we going to have enough overbalance to overcome the shift?
Alex has springs and scissor jacks, but when it comes to springs. Where is the power for reset of the  springs going to come from?

This is what happens when we start builds, and I think if we talk on how to make the build past the design stage we might get a better idea of how or if a wheel will work.