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RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, December 03, 2008, 01:26:15 AM

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tak22

Thanks armagdn03, I looked up the work of the Corums and found this tantalizing tech called resonant ring power multiplier (RPM), where the stated goal is energy storage, but includes this OU teaser:

QuoteAt present the RPM provides a 10dB gain. This means that for every 1 unit of power input into the ring; the ring is then "pumped up" to store 10 units of power. This stored energy can then be dispatched instantaneously and continuously as clean real AC power with the current and voltage in phase. With advances in materials science, the RPM will be able to:
Achieve enhanced ring gains, providing stored power of a magnitude of up to 100 to 1000 times (20dB-30dB gains) that of the input power at room temperature.

http://www.powermultiplier.com/newinvention.php

Am I interpreting this correctly?

tak

allcanadian

@All
Wow, I just found this thread and it seems there is a lot of creative thinking going on here ;)

@Grumpy
QuoteRichard Hull, who I believe still holds the record for longest discharges, stated that "nothing in the magnifier resonates".
I think anyone who states "nothing in the magnifier resonates" is the first clue that he has no idea what is going on, LOL. Everything resonates with everything else to a greater or lesser extent, the relationships between them determines the form and effects produced.
My take on this is a little different, what is seldom if ever considered is the fact that Tesla's special coil may have been copper, copper is diamagnetic having a low magnetic suseptability of -1.0, it has a resonant frequency and harmonics, it has fields influencenced by form, potential, wave period and frequency. Tesla hid some very intersting clues in patents not nearly exciting as his magnifying transmitter, some of these patents include therapeutic devices whereby two wires could be connected anywhere on a short strap and a differing potential would develop across the two wires, the potential developed across the wires was based on how close the wires fell to maximum and minimum potentials of a wave form or changing tensions on the wire ---- in this case we are speaking of relatively short wave periods. If this short strap was extended to a longer helical form then the intersection of maximum and minimal tensions could fall across parrallel conductors in this helical form, these tensions could then be considered constructive or deconstructive, they could lead or lag one another in well know phase relationships. If the wave period were minimized further we are then dealing with alternating potentials as a surface effect as shown below---eddy currents, these surface effects if expanding or radiating to the space surrounding a conductor and cutting other conductors would then constitute an induced current as induction as a general term includes both electric and what we consider to be magnetic fields. Remember induction requires change and this change must be considered in an absolute sense where all components and all forces are considered. I may not know much but I know you will not solve this riddle with generalized textbook equations, this is something very different from what I would consider standard practice. Tesla's machines utilized resonance but with what? and on what level? When you figure this out I believe you are going to be very surprised at your answer.

@armagdn03
That is a nice link, the Corums definately have something.
Best Regards
AC
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Quote from: tak22 on January 04, 2009, 04:30:35 PM
Thanks armagdn03, I looked up the work of the Corums and found this tantalizing tech called resonant ring power multiplier (RPM), where the stated goal is energy storage, but includes this OU teaser:

http://www.powermultiplier.com/newinvention.php

Am I interpreting this correctly?

tak

      I am looking for Tesla's "transformer" that 1/2 way through the patent turns into a static alternator.  That's right a static alternator.  The annular ring is polarized by input from an "exciter" which is just a dcgenerator that uses slip rings instead of a commutator.  This creates a magnetic wave that circumnavigates the annular ring just like a mechanical rotor induces magnetic field changes inside the stator windings (which are facing the wrong way to gain anything from magnetic waves circulating AROUND the stator stack.)  The rotating magnetic field is really rotating and not an apparent rotating magnetic field as produced in an ac motor.  There is no lenz drag in this "transformer"/ generator   because the magnetic wave is moving through the core not a mechanical rotor dragging magnets to different points of alignment with the core to mechanically induce flux density changes within the core of the stator output windings.   Tesla was pure genious at work.  I use to do this arrangement in testing electric motor laminations for defects that would produce eddy currents in the stack.  Tesla was using the pulsed field to initiate a magnetic wave that would be amplified in the output windings just like a spinning rotor's changing magnetic field is amplified.      NO WONDER THIS MAN WAS ATTACKED SO VISCIOUSLY BY THE POWER MONGERS OF THE DAY!!!    The magnetic domains of the annular ring flip over adjacent magnetic domains because that's what they like to do best.  The energy is from the atoms of the iron which are "cooled" off a bit while they roll into new magnetic dipole alignment.

     Faraday amongst others discovered em induction but Tesla perfected it.   Tesla McFarland Cook, and others including Steven Marks and GK Spherics Leedskalin are all aware of the power of a magnetic wave.  When are the power companies gonna give up the game and tell the oil men we don't need your dead trees no more.
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Quote from: armagdn03 on January 04, 2009, 03:51:15 PM
Trust me when I say, the The Corum Bros have it figured out...........Maybe you should look for their latest work....... ;)

Seen Corums' work. They don't have it.   Barrett neither.
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Grumpy

Quote from: allcanadian on January 04, 2009, 05:58:30 PM
@Grumpy
I think anyone who states "nothing in the magnifier resonates" is the first clue that he has no idea what is going on, LOL. Everything resonates with everything else to a greater or lesser extent, the relationships between them determines the form and effects produced.
My take on this is a little different, what is seldom if ever considered is the fact that Tesla's special coil may have been copper, copper is diamagnetic having a low magnetic suseptability of -1.0, it has a resonant frequency and harmonics, it has fields influencenced by form, potential, wave period and frequency. Tesla hid some very intersting clues in patents not nearly exciting as his magnifying transmitter, some of these patents include therapeutic devices whereby two wires could be connected anywhere on a short strap and a differing potential would develop across the two wires, the potential developed across the wires was based on how close the wires fell to maximum and minimum potentials of a wave form or changing tensions on the wire ---- in this case we are speaking of relatively short wave periods. If this short strap was extended to a longer helical form then the intersection of maximum and minimal tensions could fall across parrallel conductors in this helical form, these tensions could then be considered constructive or deconstructive, they could lead or lag one another in well know phase relationships. If the wave period were minimized further we are then dealing with alternating potentials as a surface effect as shown below---eddy currents, these surface effects if expanding or radiating to the space surrounding a conductor and cutting other conductors would then constitute an induced current as induction as a general term includes both electric and what we consider to be magnetic fields. Remember induction requires change and this change must be considered in an absolute sense where all components and all forces are considered. I may not know much but I know you will not solve this riddle with generalized textbook equations, this is something very different from what I would consider standard practice. Tesla's machines utilized resonance but with what? and on what level? When you figure this out I believe you are going to be very surprised at your answer.

@armagdn03
That is a nice link, the Corums definately have something.
Best Regards
AC

You may continue to be foolish as long as you wish.  Magnification in a magnifier is not an effect of resonance, especially not the form of resonance that you and armgn03 talk about (electromagnetic resonance).  Tesla stated in his own words that you could often do better with a few turns of a secondary (transformation) than by working voltage up with resonance.

Hull's work stands as producing the longest discharges, which was his goal.  He never set out to prove energy transmission.  To say that nothing resonates does not mean that it was not "tuned".  Hull tuned for effect.

Do you even know why Tesla used the pancake coil arrangement?

Why is the primary outside the secondary?  Why MUST it be this way?

What is the nature of the field produced in the space outside the "extra coil" and top terminal?  Tesla stated he would place a sheet of aluminum foil near the extra coil and it was immediately vaporized.  Do you continue to believe that this is an electromagnetic effect? It is not.  It is a dieelctric effect and not a reactive power one.

When Bedini stated that RE is pure reactive power - he is correct in a way - it is a "hint".  It only possesses the radiant form in dielectrics.

Regarding Tesla's short strap, are you sure of what was occurring along its length?
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards