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RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, December 03, 2008, 01:26:15 AM

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amigo

Crap, let's not turn this into another pissing contest, please?

Grumpy, and everyone else, if you pose a question - answer it! Rhetorics should be saved for philosophy classes - this is about energy and most of us are learning, always. The field of alternative energy requires utmost scientific scrutiny, through both experimental and theoretical examination, not because orthodox science wants quantitative analysis but because we need to weed out fact from fiction.

If you won't dispense your knowledge then don't toss bates around or hints about knowing anything because it's becomes hear-say and mythology - and we've seen enough of that already.

Pose a question, answer it and explain why it is so (in your opinion). It will stimulate a discussion and people will learn and think of new things.

So...I'm sure everyone wants to know, please answer:

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1. Why did Tesla use the pancake coil arrangement?

2. Why is the primary outside the secondary?  Why MUST it be this way?

3. What is the nature of the field produced in the space outside the "extra coil" and top terminal?

4. Why is it a dielectric effect and not a reactive power one?

5. Regarding Tesla's short strap, what was occurring along its length?

Thanks !

sparks

   The pancake coil inside the primary represents a huge diameter piece of coax.
If you look at his patent announcing this invention you realize that Tesla evented coax too.  Dont know how many people here remember the old 300ohm lead ins from roof top television antennaes but it was bifilar seperated by a dielectric also.  What it does do is align the dielectric current with the magnetic current so the wave keeps trucking "longitudinally" down the length of the coax.  In this case the longitudinal move isn't far before it runs into the antennae.
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gotoluc

Hi Allcanadian,

thanks for looking at this topic ;D... I always enjoyed reading your post and or topics!... please stick around if you can ;)

Here is a new video I just uploaded. I've been testing different coil winding method, wire and or geometry to see if I can find any benefits compared to a standard winded coil using enamel magnet wire. I found nothing of benefit and I most likely don't understand what Tesla was using his pancake coils for :P

Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEiQU5xn-HY

Luc


Grumpy

Quote from: sparks on January 04, 2009, 09:42:50 PM
   The pancake coil inside the primary represents a huge diameter piece of coax.
If you look at his patent announcing this invention you realize that Tesla evented coax too.  Dont know how many people here remember the old 300ohm lead ins from roof top television antennaes but it was bifilar seperated by a dielectric also.  What it does do is align the dielectric current with the magnetic current so the wave keeps trucking "longitudinally" down the length of the coax.  In this case the longitudinal move isn't far before it runs into the antennae.

Sparks pays attention when briefed.  ;D  Kudos and all due respect to you sir!

LMD wave is in the dielectric of the coax, condcutor is a guide.

Answers to questions - may all "trolls" break out a fresh pen for the log book.

1. Why did Tesla use the pancake coil arrangement?
Tesla found that a compression field was produced inside a circular conductor, rarefaction field (decompression is produced outside a circular coil).  This compression field is transformed by the secondary, resulting in a very high potential.  Depending on the variables the highest potential may NOT be at LC resonance, hence he tuned for effect.  The compression only occurs during the rise of the pulse, with decompression occurring at the fall of the pulse.  Like I have said over and over - compress - compress - compress - no decompression or you lose it.  Back many years ago this was loosely referred to as "field pumping" by some basement experimenters - 1000:1 gain.  As far as I know they are all gone as I can locate none of them.

What am I talkin' about?  CAVITATION OF THE MEDIUM ITSELF!

2. Why is the primary outside the secondary?  Why MUST it be this way?
The compression field will always be inside a circular conductor, to be outiside would force it to expand which is not the way it works.

3. What is the nature of the field produced in the space outside the "extra coil" and top terminal?
The "current" produced in this space is a mass-free polarization current.  No ions. No electrons.  It literally runs with gain and can achieve astronomical levels - literally.

4. Why is it a dielectric effect and not a reactive power one?
Different direction.   Reactive power is a state of storage not a current.

5. Regarding Tesla's short strap, what was occurring along its length?
If we refer to the same thing, then the short strap is a primary and not a coil of high self-induction which would have the loads connected to it.

Cold electricity is like a pressurized energy state - it seeks to balance - to relieve the pressure - like everything else.

Something else of note, when Tesla referred to "currents of conduction" - in what medium was he referring to?  Not a conductor, but a dielectric medium!

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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    I believe it is user Tinselkola that uses a bifilar wound primary and top wound bifilar coil.   Tesla did not pulse these coils directly from the oscillator.  He pulsed his primary winding of two turns with the bifilar coil INSIDE the primary.  He then extended one end of the bifilar to an elevated top load and the other end to ground.   This was the configuration for the transmission of power.  The impedance match is built into the bifilar coil with strict adherence to the voltage developed between turns of the spiral (capacitance developed within the coil) and inductance of the mass of the copper. 
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