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RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, December 03, 2008, 01:26:15 AM

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gyulasun

Hi gixo,

I wonder what you mean on the "two different input results"? Based on your data I figured only one input power and you accepted it (13.96W).

The moment you connect a resistor in series with your 12V DC supply which would feed your original circuit you have created a voltage divider and this divider splits the DC supply up to two voltage parts: one of these is the voltage drop across your series resistor (1.935V) and the other is the rest voltage: 12V-1.935=10.065V actually this is your voltage source from which your circuit operates. And you may check the input power by this 10V times the 1.38A current (this flows through both the series resistor and your circuit) and you get 13.8W (very close to the 13.96W, the tiny difference comes from omitting some decimals).

I understand that your output voltage can go up as high as even 500V across the output electrolytic capacitor(s) BUT this is the UNLOADED output voltage!
SO if you (say) measure the unloaded output voltage to be 550V you DO NOT have any current YOU consume from the output, now if you take the 293.3/10210= .0287A current and relate this to the 550V then you fool yourself because this .0287A flows IN your 10.21kOhm load resistor when you connect it to the output BUT then your 550V will NOT hold: it will go down to 293.3V as you measured, ok? 

The basic requirement for a successful output-input feedback you would like to achieve is that the output should be higher than the input.  A few years ago a member (poynt99) uploaded a possible block diagram for testing such looping, see here to download:
www.overunity.com/downloads/sa/downfile/id/248/   Study the last two pages, Appendix1  (you have to keep in mind that  LED devices also have their own forward voltage drops and also consume some power when they are lit). I show this you as a principle diagram, it should be modified for your circuits of course.  The 8 series LEDs across the input DC source serves also as a voltage stabilizer for that circuit involved in the document.  The bottom line is that you have to use some means for stabilizing the output voltage from your circuit when attempting to loop it back to the input, to prevent a possible run-away situation when the output indeed exceeds input.

rgds, Gyula


gixo

The reason for these results is now understood, thank you Gyulasun.

What is more confusing is how this device naturally resonates energy through the coils, yet does not perform past 100% return as does the H-Bridge controller tuned to resonate as is shown within the first 10 pages of this discussion.

In the future I'll try the feedback circuit you've shared as a standard measure of performance.

Would a voltage regulator chip as present in many 12V battery charger diagrams be able to improve the design, rather than using load bulbs to reduce the voltage?

elementSix

Here is some great info that has to do with the TPU and the TK device.  They are both Nuclear Magnetic Resonance devices..  Watch these 10 videos on NMR and you will have a much greater understanding about the process and what needs to be done to get all the molecules to spin echo at the same time and the use of the Homogenous Field or earth field(Ground) and the result of a 3 part coil to get the molecules to turn up on their axis and spin together to get the desired energy spikes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aRKAXD4dAg
This the first of 10, the rest are in the video columns to the right of this video...
Pay special attention to spin echos and the Pre-Polarizing field.  The reason for the 3 part coil is to use the earths natural magnetic field to get the molecules ready to be pulsed with an initial 90 degree pulse and then the 180 degree pulse which cause the decay in the sample material and the resulting energy that comes from that decay.

Here is an old document from Mcfreey.  It's on NMR devices and is very informative, read this and then watch the videos nad you will have a great understanding of what the TK and TPU main reactions are created by.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=mcfreey&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CD4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2F7679%2Fselfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze%2Fdlattach%2Fattach%2F111526%2F&ei=RdbIUNiaIenV0QG0r4GwCQ&usg=AFQjCNE6ar3Dv7Z3cKJar9XH6vwPq6oIMA&bvm=bv.1355272958,d.dmQ&cad=rja

Heres some cool PATENTS with great info in them.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4594566.pdf
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7456631.html
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4631481.html

The tuned LC circuit of an NMR probe includes a coil center tapped to ground through a capacitance selected to constrain parasitic resonances to a frequency region below decoupler frequencies employed in the probe.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4751465.html

AlienGrey

Quote from: gotoluc on October 23, 2012, 10:21:05 AM
The circuit is just a capacitor and coil in series connected to the output of a signal generator.
Luc
Hi just found this article, I'm not sure this statement is true as such, my confusion is the video the guy Luc is it ? talks about a narrow pulse gives him the best results, but then he has the same feed going into a CD4013 'D-type this device divides by two because it just triggers on the one edge so you would end up with a EW 50/50 waveform, if you want to correct this, sling the 4013 in the bin or rewire it for CLK reset mode with steering diodes or just use a device like the IR2111, this will give you a full bridge drive to your other two IR 2103 chips  or faster version, however you can  only get what is available locally with this logic the same applies to the power that is used to harvest it ;). So not much chance of any real power here. but it could be useful for battery charging.