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Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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hansvonlieven

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April 20, 2009, 06:00:17 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on April 20, 2009, 05:36:02 PM
@All,

Check this out. If I haven't overlooked something then that's it. And, let me add, if that's it then @eisenficker2000 rulez!

Another quirk of WM2D. The device cannot possibly work as drawn. If you imagine a vertical line through the axle you will see that there is more torque on the right hand side than on the left, yet the device rotates to the left. And that is without taking friction into account.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

broli

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April 20, 2009, 06:08:48 PM
Quote from: hansvonlieven on April 20, 2009, 06:00:17 PM
Another quirk of WM2D. The device cannot possibly work as drawn. If you imagine a vertical line through the axle you will see that there is more torque on the right hand side than on the left, yet the device rotates to the left. And that is without taking friction into account.

Hans von Lieven

I believe you are wrong. If you draw a curved line and do the torque analysis you will be surprised at what you get. Even though it's closer to the center its torque contribution is higher than the one that is further away. I posted the same answer in another thread;

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7262.new

Omnibus

#957
April 20, 2009, 06:10:45 PM
Quote from: hansvonlieven on April 20, 2009, 06:00:17 PM
Another quirk of WM2D. The device cannot possibly work as drawn. If you imagine a vertical line through the axle you will see that there is more torque on the right hand side than on the left, yet the device rotates to the left. And that is without taking friction into account.

Hans von Lieven

The question is why isn't the same quirk showing itself here (see attached)?

Omnibus

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April 20, 2009, 06:16:47 PM
That link you gave is from the days when the basic flaws in wm2d were still unknown. In the present case there are no rigid joints, air resistance is on, there are no springs and we have a similar model (non-working) with everything else the same but the grooves on the rotor.
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