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Where will the energy come from, to run a Magnet Motor?

Started by TinselKoala, June 06, 2009, 02:06:20 PM

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Justalabrat

Quote from: IronShell3d on June 08, 2009, 08:49:16 AM

Iron was formed from Hydrogen in a multi step fusion process in the belly of our sun,
IronShell3d

Quote from: IronShell3d on June 08, 2009, 09:00:27 AM
Hi NewBie123,

What is it you object to:


IronShell3d

How about the word "Belly"? It sounds so redneck ::)

IronShell3d

Quote from: newbie123 on June 08, 2009, 10:47:10 AM

This is what have a problem with...       An  H field is not an energy source.   What physically moves that H field, is the energy source.

Hi NewBie123,

You understand the H field is amp turns/meter? You know what that means? The energy source is the moving and spinning 4 unpaired shell 3d electrons in every aligned Iron atom in the magnet. We are not talking B field here.

IronShell3d

IronShell3d

Quote from: -[marco]- on June 08, 2009, 11:14:07 AM
Nowhere

Hi Marco,

Incorrect. The 4 unpaired shell 3d electrons in the aligned Iron atoms of a magnet can and are tapped for energy all the time.

IronShell3d

IronShell3d

Quote from: lumen on June 08, 2009, 12:23:33 PM
If you knew where the energy was to come form and how, then we would already have a working device.

The fact is, it's impossible until it isn't. At that time you will know where the energy comes from.
One can only test different principals and concepts looking for the one stone no one has rolled over. It is likely they have all been turned over!

Hi Lumen,

Turning over stones is an interesting process. Sometime you don't really know what to look for and miss that which you seek. Then many years later you repeat the process and discover that what you sought was there all the time.

I'm now telling you what to look for as you turn over those stones and that in small measures you are tapping it now, just you never realised it.

IronShell3d

magpower

Quote from: IronShell3d on June 08, 2009, 09:00:27 AM
Hi NewBie123,

What is it you object to:

1) The Iron atoms 4 unpaired shell 3d electrons are responsible, when aligned to other Iron atoms for the external magnetic field of a permanent magnet?

2) That this external magnetic field is composed by both a H field and a B field?

3) That the magnets H field can induce domain alignment in an adjacent ferrite?

4) That energy is required to overcome frictional losses in the ferrite as the domains physically rotate into alignment.

5) That this energy comes from the H field of the magnet.

6) That the magnets H field comes from the shell 3d electrons.

7) That magnetic fields are not energy sources but just transfer energy.

8) That the shell 3d electrons provide the energy needed in the ferrite to overcome domain alignment frictional losses via the magnets external magnetic field.

IronShell3d

IronShell3d

This has been intresting what you have been talking about but I have been trying for years to build magnet motor and found no real net gain. So I ask you how does one build a simple test jig to see this gain in energy. Could you please draw something out then we could all test this out. You talk alot about using ferrite and have heard about this, so how

Thks
Wayne