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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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baroutologos

I think its time to enter the conversation :)

I was fascinated also by the video and eyes glowed out of excitement. However, few things are to be noted. Having read a large part of this thread almost any oppinion was expressed, and replications were restricted to poor perfomances of concepts.

I was inspired by the you tube user Destine who condcuted some experiements with a Tesla coil a lighting incedescence bulb. i replicated the experiment and i was also able to light it.

I made some distinct observations regarding the use of a ground and bulb performance. The better the ground the better bulb's brightness at same input cost.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5022-ground-enhanced-lit-lamps-tesla-coil-ground.html for those already registered.
....

I have some experience with Dr Stifller's SEC and in general with one-wire power transfer. Actually, above certain frequency the alternative gurrent gives away to oscillating current. Nothing new about that.

In the specific video i am puzzled about the fact that while he uses one ground at a time to light the bulbs, the hand held DMM are showing some 300 volts over heavy output coil. In order the oscillating current to take place, RF is required. Above 5Khz? 10KHz? 20 kHz? dont know exactly. All my meters are going out at holding them even near at high freq. Not to mention taking measurements.

The only plausible answer to this is that the Kapanadze's device output is either two wires electricity of low frequency, and same time using 2 grounds (else the displacement currents do NOt manifest at 50 Hz or even 1000Hz) or workign at say 20Khz, one ground (as it seems) and the DMM can measure at those frequencies.

please note that DMM measurements are quite unstable, either on lamps (almost unmeasurable) either on output coil. Thus heavy RF present.

...
anyway, my next steps is to investigate the relationship of a reversed Tesla coil(large inductunce primary, few turns secondary) and the ground in output terms either it is capacitative discharge driven or solid state.

Baroutologos

wings

Quote from: baroutologos on November 27, 2009, 07:00:42 AM
I think its time to enter the conversation :)

I was fascinated also by the video and eyes glowed out of excitement. However, few things are to be noted. Having read a large part of this thread almost any oppinion was expressed, and replications were restricted to poor perfomances of concepts.

I was inspired by the you tube user Destine who condcuted some experiements with a Tesla coil a lighting incedescence bulb. i replicated the experiment and i was also able to light it.

I made some distinct observations regarding the use of a ground and bulb performance. The better the ground the better bulb's brightness at same input cost.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5022-ground-enhanced-lit-lamps-tesla-coil-ground.html for those already registered.
....

I have some experience with Dr Stifller's SEC and in general with one-wire power transfer. Actually, above certain frequency the alternative gurrent gives away to oscillating current. Nothing new about that.

In the specific video i am puzzled about the fact that while he uses one ground at a time to light the bulbs, the hand held DMM are showing some 300 volts over heavy output coil. In order the oscillating current to take place, RF is required. Above 5Khz? 10KHz? 20 kHz? dont know exactly. All my meters are going out at holding them even near at high freq. Not to mention taking measurements.

The only plausible answer to this is that the Kapanadze's device output is either two wires electricity of low frequency, and same time using 2 grounds (else the displacement currents do NOt manifest at 50 Hz or even 1000Hz) or workign at say 20Khz, one ground (as it seems) and the DMM can measure at those frequencies.

please note that DMM measurements are quite unstable, either on lamps (almost unmeasurable) either on output coil. Thus heavy RF present.

...
anyway, my next steps is to investigate the relationship of a reversed Tesla coil(large inductunce primary, few turns secondary) and the ground in output terms either it is capacitative discharge driven or solid state.

Baroutologos

it seems that you have this effect:
Tesla emitter & Atmospheric Energy

Standby_Power

I can attest that running a mile long wire will create an electrical charge. As a young man I had the opportunity to work for the telephone company as a lineman. In rural areas we ran uninsilated iron wire for miles down dirt roads to provide telephone service to Ranch owners. if you grabbed that  unenergized iron wire bare fisted while standing on the ground, it would knock you on your butt. I picked induction from the Earth I am guessing. So the theory you speak of makes sense to me about running a mile long wire to produce electrical current using an Earth ground but, I doubt that it is patentable.

Hope that helps.



Quote from: CTG Labs on June 27, 2009, 05:27:50 AM
Hi Bill,

This immediately reminded me of something I read on keelynet many years ago, just found it:

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/aethrtap.htm

Not exactly the same, but pretty much similar:

"He showed us a diagram of this very interesting idea that he says would allow one to pull energy from either the earth or aether.

It required the use of a one mile wire, laid out in a straight line. I asked him if it could be wound up and he says he does not think it will work if NOT stretched out.

So, you take this wire, support it from the ground by non-conducting 18" high standoffs and stretch it over the one mile test area.

On one end you put an AC power source, with the ground wire connected to Earth ground, and the high side connected to the wire.

On the opposite end, you tie in a string of lamps. One side of the lamps are tied to the one mile hot wire, the other side is tied to an earth ground connection.

Vic says you stay at the AC power source side of the wire while watching the lamps with a pair of binoculars. When you switch in the AC power source, the lights will all light up.

Now comes the weird part. If you very rapidly transfer the one mile wire connection FROM the AC source DIRECTLY to the earth ground, the LIGHTS WILL STAY ON! Or so Vic tells us.

I am told there is a patent on this and seem to remember having seen one like it somewhere before. It is interesting to note that Thomas Henry Moray's Radiant Energy Receiver also REQUIRED the use of long wire antennas. The 18" height is a curious requirement unless there is something really odd at this level above surface. "


Regards,

Dave.

wings

Quote from: Standby_Power on December 06, 2009, 07:21:51 AM
I can attest that running a mile long wire will create an electrical charge. As a young man I had the opportunity to work for the telephone company as a lineman. In rural areas we ran uninsilated iron wire for miles down dirt roads to provide telephone service to Ranch owners. if you grabbed that  unenergized iron wire bare fisted while standing on the ground, it would knock you on your butt. I picked induction from the Earth I am guessing. So the theory you speak of makes sense to me about running a mile long wire to produce electrical current using an Earth ground but, I doubt that it is patentable.

Hope that helps.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetically_induced_current
also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_storm

The telegraph lines in the past were affected by geomagnetic storms as well. The telegraphs used a long wire for the data line, stretching for many miles, using ground as the return wire and being fed with DC power from a battery; this made them (together with the power lines mentioned below) susceptible to being influenced by the fluctuations caused by the ring current. The voltage/current induced by the geomagnetic storm could have led to diminishing of the signal, when subtracted from the battery polarity, or to overly strong and spurious signals when added to it; some operators in such cases even learned to disconnect the battery and rely on the induced current as their power source. In extreme cases the induced current was so high the coils at the receiving side burst in flames, or the operators received electric shocks. Geomagnetic storms affect also long-haul telephone lines, including undersea cables if they aren't fiber optic based.[9]