Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[ronotte]

@stivep,

HEY, you really setup a nice way to QSO It does remember me the old times when I connected all the world using hand made low/medium power transceivers operating with Morse, AM, SSB and finally RTTY and computer assisted...now everything is to be considered almost lost even if experience gained remains intact. My XYL is to be considered my best supporter as she is fascinated by technology best if coming by myself. I still have my original QSL cards...nice to remember. At the end I left for the same reasons you pointed out! Of course still in front of me I see the last remnants: a FT-277E Yaesu-Musen AM/SSB 200W transceiver, YAESU MUSEN FT-2100B 2KW SSB linear amplifier, YAESU MUSEN FT-236 VHF/UHF 50W transceiver, o-777 Tono Communication terminal, PACKRATT-232 comm terminal, antenna coupler, CDE remote antenna direction control, etc.

@wattsup
I'm sorry you are not having much fun from your replication. I think that I may help you in some way, listen:

1 - I see a basic  error in your Caduceus/pickup coil implementation. Basically your idea on the sliding tubes is good: but NOT in this case. The stivep's design works on establishing a minimum fixed inter winding capacitance that MUST be met: not less than about 140pf, better if 170pf. It is via said stray capacitance that the device operate The HV signal closes on that stray cap. This in turn dictate that the pickup coil must be wound strictly over the caduceus and using only a thin insulation foil- best is Kapton. And do not forget to isolate each Caduceus crossing!

2- Spark gap setting is fundamental. It must be set according to the amount of HV you are using. For example in my case I provide for SG1 a max of 1.3 - 1.5KV so I am using a silent & sealed 1KVDC arrestor OR a simpler two brass screws with 1mm gap. The arrestor gives better work...but goes easily berserk if flooded with too much voltage (easy seen on scope). Normally you see always at least a 10-15%  jitter on the waveform. In your case you have an excess of voltage probably 6 - 9KV or more so you have to use a 2mm spark gap or more...but cautions if you exceed than too high voltage build up and everything fries. The output SG2 generally must have equal or less gap than SG1.

3 - I am not using a VC to tune the Caduceus  because is too expensive to gather the correct unit. That is the reason why I did the tuning injecting only a 1V signal into the AV plug and picking the output on load directly.  It turns out that it works so I put the correct fixed 1nF/10KV cap.

4 - You are not watching the correct waveform. That is probably because of what I reported in point 1. Again, just moving the ferrite rod you should easily see the big effect: you should see the normal cup like wave, the trumpet like wave, only spikes OR a continuous sinusoidal wave like found on your TBC output. Ha, I forgot  to say that in order to allow a good scope view I connected the pickup coil center tap to home ground. A last observation: it is also easy to hear, while moving the rod, the ferrite ‘singing’.

@ all,
I want to share with you another new full design that I'm playing with. May be that it could allow to gather additional useful info on how this class of devices does operate.
I'm seeing that you probably missed the main points of my previous post:

1 - I AM NOT USING THE TBC oscillator as HV 15-35KHz sinusoidal signal source.
2 - I have now scaled up everything to run @ 3MHZ

Why I did that? well, I just wanted to see if possible to improve stivep's design applying same stivep's indications but using a true Tesla approach coupled to an higher operating frequency and hence a smaller form factor. YES, it turned out that it is possible as I obtained very similar if not better results. Please consider also that the big difference with Stivep's design lays in the fact that pickup coils are auto resonating on common 3MHz frequency.

My new device (the one that I am now perfecting, see pic ) consists simply of 3 coaxial small pancake coils: The Kacher, a bifilar pancake link coil, 2 pancake  pickup coils all designed to resonate at the same frequency (in this case 3 MHz but it could be anything else).

The first pancake is the PRIMARY connected to AV plug. The pancake is a standard bifilar serially connected as per Tesla indications. It has only few turns (1/4 -1/5 of secondary)  but spreaded onto the full available surface ('surface' is just a CD -disk plating removed- to make it steady support form). Here it is important that Cu weight is equal to secondary coil. It does replace the Caduceus coil used by Stivep. Purpose is the same: the cancelling field coil does develop a strong magnetic wave that is directed (magnetically) toward the secondary. Best would be to put such coil in between the two interconnected secondary but due to a wrong big terminal support (glued on coil's surface) for the moment is simply put on one side. Of course its natural resonance is in the >20MHz region and as the Caduceus case is not used in standard mode but it is only a means to properly excite/drive the special secondary. So there is still a tuning cap (the CV indicated by Stivep) as it does anyway match the impedance with the AV plug. Its effect on signal is great hence its value must be set exactly. I used 1nf/10KV...but each case is to be considered apart. Vacuum Jennings CV are the best...but expensive!

The 2nd & 3rd pancakes (not bifilar wounded) are the PickUp SECONDARY. They are equal and designed to auto resonate at 3MHz, hence no tuning caps are provided. They replace the center tap pickup coil on the Caduceus version. Of course they are also set with the 'inversion' at the center tap.
A ferrite rod (9-10mm) can easily be inserted coaxially in order to: provide for tuning and changing the device's operating mode. The ferrite rod (a single 10mm diam radio tuning ferrite) has a big effect because it couples the 3 pancackes togheter and changes the whole set resonant requency so you have a unique way to fine tune the device.
Distance (gaps) between the pancakes is very important. After several hours of tests I found that the primary must be set to at least 2cm far from the secondary coils. On the contrary the 2 interconnected secondary must be set with a gap of only 5mm or less.
The overall setup  (look at the pic)checked to resonate at 3 MHz.

The source. In this case I used a Kacher Look at the pic). So only a 5turn primary, a 'solenoid like' secondary designed to 1/4 wave resonance at 3 MHz  and a single low power transistor able to operate at said frequency (MJE1530D). The output taken directly from a slotted Cu tube with a small ferrite rod inside. The complete project is on DELAMORTO thread just have a look there. Said setup efficiently delivers about 1 - 1.5 KV and I found it able to drive directly the AV plug. I have run many, many hours of work without a glitch...never have had any failure or trouble. HV magnifier coil is wound onto a 16mm PVC tube while primary (connected to transistor collector) is just a 5turn linear coil. You can see it on pic.

My state-of -art now is that to find the correct way to take out the output. Stivep is right as for itself it is not a big problem. In my view it depends on what is better to seek:

- Convert output to DC and charge a cap? In this case I've already seen that I can charge quickly 0.1uF at 1KV via the output SG2 (thin 1KV duration=200nsec spikes @ 1-2-5KHz rate). Then what to do? If I load the cap with a fixed 100K resistor it does not recharge to 1KV. This means that the device output impedance is high. Indeed the HV diode on output has an high resistance! so the only way to go that way could be to switch on and off the load charging for example a much bigger 10 - 100uF cap useful to drive a standard DC/AC inverter.

- Use directly the output Trumpet waveform. I have documented that such output , while using a 1KV spark gap may well reach the same level. So there should be only an impedance match problem. In such a case the standard approach is to make a tap on pickup coil, or to drive another step down air transformer or simply use a Pi  or L-C adapting network.

A final consideration. I think that the next step could be to image a usable way to get a MUCH DIVERGING TRUMPUT WAVEFORM: does it means positive feedback use or there are other methods as well? Stiveo, what do you think about?
 
Have fun

Roberto

[stivep]

GUYS i HAVE few minutes now  SO QUICKLY:


so far  I have published 3 videos of series


the newest one from 3AM in the morning of today  is




first light of hope in 2012 part #3 OF VIDEOS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrRc-xieWjE






all 3 links are




First Light of Hope in 2012 investigation of OU PART#1 OF

videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn8TLBsR3r0




Spark Gap tubes evaluation for project part #2 OF VIDEOS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDcITQ7gtaI





first light of hope in 2012 part #3 OF VIDEOS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrRc-xieWjE






In the recent video I haave concentrated on structure of Glen's transformer.
This transformer is only for purpose of measurement and testing.
Use of this transformer  happened  to be impossible  due to Fluke limitation.
It was designed and calculated by one of most brilliant engineers say 15% of  best of the best in the world.
25 winds primary flat copper tape
250 secondary 24AVG wire.
ratio 1:10
freq of operation 10khz to 1Mhz
spec of that transformer with all data is published on the last video.
If one fallow the concept and wind transformer with bigger ratio say 1:100 than similar results
might be obtained but that might be more distortion.
This transformer gives  the same signal at output as was delivered in input in   wave shape.



Originally this transformer was to be powered by Fluke 5205A
Generator  of 1 to 10V at frequency  from 10KHz to 1MHz was to be delivered to input of fluke


Fluke 5205a is tricky and if you read its  spec  you will find limitations


http://www.buy17.com/FLU/pdf/FLUKE5205A.pdf




look at the section
overload protection;


Also  the power of fluke can not over come magnetization current of Glens transformer
primary factor is design of Fluke to handle
look at section :Maximum capacitive load
Glens transformer is in nature inductive load.


All data if experiment and  calculation including frequency bandwidth utilized   was explained at page 686




Wesley

[John M]

@stivep,

HEY, you really setup a nice way to QSO It does remember me the old times when I connected all the world using hand made low/medium power transceivers operating with Morse, AM, SSB and finally RTTY and computer assisted...now everything is to be considered almost lost even if experience gained remains intact. My XYL is to be considered my best supporter as she is fascinated by technology best if coming by myself. I still have my original QSL cards...nice to remember. At the end I left for the same reasons you pointed out! Of course still in front of me I see the last remnants: a FT-277E Yaesu-Musen AM/SSB 200W transceiver, YAESU MUSEN FT-2100B 2KW SSB linear amplifier, YAESU MUSEN FT-236 VHF/UHF 50W transceiver, o-777 Tono Communication terminal, PACKRATT-232 comm terminal, antenna coupler, CDE remote antenna direction control, etc.

@wattsup
I'm sorry you are not having much fun from your replication. I think that I may help you in some way, listen:

1 - I see a basic  error in your Caduceus/pickup coil implementation. Basically your idea on the sliding tubes is good: but NOT in this case. The stivep's design works on establishing a minimum fixed inter winding capacitance that MUST be met: not less than about 140pf, better if 170pf. It is via said stray capacitance that the device operate The HV signal closes on that stray cap. This in turn dictate that the pickup coil must be wound strictly over the caduceus and using only a thin insulation foil- best is Kapton. And do not forget to isolate each Caduceus crossing!

2- Spark gap setting is fundamental. It must be set according to the amount of HV you are using. For example in my case I provide for SG1 a max of 1.3 - 1.5KV so I am using a silent & sealed 1KVDC arrestor OR a simpler two brass screws with 1mm gap. The arrestor gives better work...but goes easily berserk if flooded with too much voltage (easy seen on scope). Normally you see always at least a 10-15%  jitter on the waveform. In your case you have an excess of voltage probably 6 - 9KV or more so you have to use a 2mm spark gap or more...but cautions if you exceed than too high voltage build up and everything fries. The output SG2 generally must have equal or less gap than SG1.

3 - I am not using a VC to tune the Caduceus  because is too expensive to gather the correct unit. That is the reason why I did the tuning injecting only a 1V signal into the AV plug and picking the output on load directly.  It turns out that it works so I put the correct fixed 1nF/10KV cap.

4 - You are not watching the correct waveform. That is probably because of what I reported in point 1. Again, just moving the ferrite rod you should easily see the big effect: you should see the normal cup like wave, the trumpet like wave, only spikes OR a continuous sinusoidal wave like found on your TBC output. Ha, I forgot  to say that in order to allow a good scope view I connected the pickup coil center tap to home ground. A last observation: it is also easy to hear, while moving the rod, the ferrite ‘singing’.

@ all,
I want to share with you another new full design that I'm playing with. May be that it could allow to gather additional useful info on how this class of devices does operate.
I'm seeing that you probably missed the main points of my previous post:

1 - I AM NOT USING THE TBC oscillator as HV 15-35KHz sinusoidal signal source.
2 - I have now scaled up everything to run @ 3MHZ

Why I did that? well, I just wanted to see if possible to improve stivep's design applying same stivep's indications but using a true Tesla approach coupled to an higher operating frequency and hence a smaller form factor. YES, it turned out that it is possible as I obtained very similar if not better results. Please consider also that the big difference with Stivep's design lays in the fact that pickup coils are auto resonating on common 3MHz frequency.

My new device (the one that I am now perfecting, see pic ) consists simply of 3 coaxial small pancake coils: The Kacher, a bifilar pancake link coil, 2 pancake  pickup coils all designed to resonate at the same frequency (in this case 3 MHz but it could be anything else).

The first pancake is the PRIMARY connected to AV plug. The pancake is a standard bifilar serially connected as per Tesla indications. It has only few turns (1/4 -1/5 of secondary)  but spreaded onto the full available surface ('surface' is just a CD -disk plating removed- to make it steady support form). Here it is important that Cu weight is equal to secondary coil. It does replace the Caduceus coil used by Stivep. Purpose is the same: the cancelling field coil does develop a strong magnetic wave that is directed (magnetically) toward the secondary. Best would be to put such coil in between the two interconnected secondary but due to a wrong big terminal support (glued on coil's surface) for the moment is simply put on one side. Of course its natural resonance is in the >20MHz region and as the Caduceus case is not used in standard mode but it is only a means to properly excite/drive the special secondary. So there is still a tuning cap (the CV indicated by Stivep) as it does anyway match the impedance with the AV plug. Its effect on signal is great hence its value must be set exactly. I used 1nf/10KV...but each case is to be considered apart. Vacuum Jennings CV are the best...but expensive!

The 2nd & 3rd pancakes (not bifilar wounded) are the PickUp SECONDARY. They are equal and designed to auto resonate at 3MHz, hence no tuning caps are provided. They replace the center tap pickup coil on the Caduceus version. Of course they are also set with the 'inversion' at the center tap.
A ferrite rod (9-10mm) can easily be inserted coaxially in order to: provide for tuning and changing the device's operating mode. The ferrite rod (a single 10mm diam radio tuning ferrite) has a big effect because it couples the 3 pancackes togheter and changes the whole set resonant requency so you have a unique way to fine tune the device.
Distance (gaps) between the pancakes is very important. After several hours of tests I found that the primary must be set to at least 2cm far from the secondary coils. On the contrary the 2 interconnected secondary must be set with a gap of only 5mm or less.
The overall setup  (look at the pic)checked to resonate at 3 MHz.

The source. In this case I used a Kacher Look at the pic). So only a 5turn primary, a 'solenoid like' secondary designed to 1/4 wave resonance at 3 MHz  and a single low power transistor able to operate at said frequency (MJE1530D). The output taken directly from a slotted Cu tube with a small ferrite rod inside. The complete project is on DELAMORTO thread just have a look there. Said setup efficiently delivers about 1 - 1.5 KV and I found it able to drive directly the AV plug. I have run many, many hours of work without a glitch...never have had any failure or trouble. HV magnifier coil is wound onto a 16mm PVC tube while primary (connected to transistor collector) is just a 5turn linear coil. You can see it on pic.

My state-of -art now is that to find the correct way to take out the output. Stivep is right as for itself it is not a big problem. In my view it depends on what is better to seek:

- Convert output to DC and charge a cap? In this case I've already seen that I can charge quickly 0.1uF at 1KV via the output SG2 (thin 1KV duration=200nsec spikes @ 1-2-5KHz rate). Then what to do? If I load the cap with a fixed 100K resistor it does not recharge to 1KV. This means that the device output impedance is high. Indeed the HV diode on output has an high resistance! so the only way to go that way could be to switch on and off the load charging for example a much bigger 10 - 100uF cap useful to drive a standard DC/AC inverter.

- Use directly the output Trumpet waveform. I have documented that such output , while using a 1KV spark gap may well reach the same level. So there should be only an impedance match problem. In such a case the standard approach is to make a tap on pickup coil, or to drive another step down air transformer or simply use a Pi  or L-C adapting network.

A final consideration. I think that the next step could be to image a usable way to get a MUCH DIVERGING TRUMPUT WAVEFORM: does it means positive feedback use or there are other methods as well? Stiveo, what do you think about?
 
Have fun

Roberto

Ronette - (It does replace the Caduceus coil used by Stivep. Purpose is the same: the cancelling field coil does develop a strong magnetic wave that is directed (magnetically) toward the secondary.)
In the above statement are you referring to the magnetic wave as a scaler wave which is different from a standard magnetic field generated by a solenoid type of electromagnet?
John

[energia9]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMYiC6xBzWE 

if replicating this spark gap tube alternative be very careful and dont use your finger anywhere near like he did.  block the way of air with silicon.
recommend you to jump to 0:56 in the video.

[forest]

The essense is  IMHO to create very strong electromagnet  without Lenz influence , and then pulsing it as fast as possible. Just that is enough. Then wind secondary and tap energy. stiveip proved it by using caduceus coil. It's my personal opinion.