I see an economic diasater coming...

[MasterPlaster]

Please, do tell.
This is the right forum for it!

[the_big_m_in_ok]

ATT said:

Public fear-H1N1:
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE58H58820090918

I happened to see on the Internet, in passing from an article, scientists were admittedly trying to combine the deadly avian flu and the swine flu in a lab to then formulate a vaccine for it.

Isn't that risky if they succeed and it infects a lab worker, unknowingly, and it's then inadvertently released into the worldwide population?

Avian Flu that's as contagious as swine flu?  And it kills at least 60% of its victims?  Talk about a conspiracy theory?!?!

--Lee

[ATT]

Avian Flu that's as contagious as swine flu?  And it kills at least 60% of its victims?  Talk about a conspiracy theory?!?!

Anything is possible when dealing with those who have no consience (and who's intellectual abilities are limited to furthering their agendas).

Although the potential threat a mutated flue virus presents is immediately disturbing, the broader possibilities of an insidious agenda are even more disturbing.

The question that remains is: What action do we take?

Please, do tell. This is the right forum for it!

Would you like that -manuscript- in Quark, Indesign or PDF format?

Seriously, there is ever so much more to this than than meets the eye. Any investigation of the of the events and interactions leading to the circumstances we find ourselves in today (in order to appear cohesive) would require too rigorous a treatment to deal with in a few fragmented forum posts.

I will say this much, there are a multiplicity of controls imposed on populations in order to both steer and maintain a desired direction at any given time. Most often the desired effect can be realized with simple 'nudges', but occasionally the controllers wish to bring about a directional change more rapidly and that requires a more forceful (thus drastic) control-input.

If you've ever piloted a boat, you know that when you apply rudder it takes a while to bring the craft around to a new heading (for the helm to answer-up), the bigger the craft, the more time it takes. It's the same with populations, so it's important to realise that the control-input required for any desired change must be applied well before you desire that change in direction to occur...sometimes 'generations' before you desire that change to occur.

We have been in the process of 'answering the helm' now for more than one generation (several, actually) and we are beginning to see glimpses of the ultimate destination our 'controllers' have determined.

If the majority of the 'crew' won't mutiny, perhaps those of us who have more insight should consider manning the lifeboats...
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[the_big_m_in_ok]

Anything is possible when dealing with those who have no consience (and who's intellectual abilities are limited to furthering their agendas).

Yep. I agree 100%
But:  With respect to the video involving the female National Guard troop, there could be a trigger in the Gov't trying to confiscate all American Weapons.  This probably won't go over well in the Western States, as well as the Appalachian States.  Guns are important to these people.  I doubt if they'll hand them over without comment.
Here's the video:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/soldier-claims-authorities-training-to-intern-americans-who-refuse-swine-flu-shot.html
See for yourself and decide whether or not she's kidding or merely being an alarmist Chicken Little.

Although the potential threat a mutated flue virus presents is immediately disturbing, the broader possibilities of an insidious agenda are even more disturbing.

Well, many religions have an "End Times" prophecy.  In terms of historical records, the leaders of past empires weren't generally setting the best example for their citizens to follow.  Some of those leaders(i.e., Adolph Hitler, Ghengis Khan, Attila the Hun) were the problem to be dealt with.  But, that goes for everywhere.

The question that remains is: What action do we take?

One Member on the forum, on this thread, suggested, "Run for the hills!, Run for your life!"
Can he live in the wilderness from scratch, with merely the clothes he's wearing?  In an environment stressed by pollution?  Doubtful.  Also, the Gov't has helicopters and night-vision goggles.  He can't hide anywhere, and neither can anyone else.  I don't even try.

If the majority of the 'crew' won't mutiny, perhaps those of us who have more insight should consider manning the lifeboats...
.

This "trigger" I mentioned can begin the collapse I predict. AND, several other sources said the same thing already.
What can I do?
Nothing.  I can't change anything.  Whatever I do, someone can always come along later and change that to suit themselves.  Everything changes in the universe.  I've seen this happen for many years.

What I can do is wait and watch.  Those who want to make more karma, can do so.  They have free will, like everyone.  However, whether they like it or not, they'll be held accountable for their actions. 
Me, too.
That's why I never really got involved with the crap some people think is important.  That's short term.  For me, in the long term, some earlier predictions have indicated that there is hope for the smart, resilient and adaptable person. 
A former Marine told me:  "The man who know how to use his mind and his body can be very dangerous."
I'm not military trained to be dangerous, but I can try and be at the right place at the right the time---and use that survival quality to my advantage.
Be aware:  I'm here now because I don't make fatal mistakes and I'm very, very! lucky when I need to be.  That's the way it is for me.

--Lee

[d3adp00l]

well here in cali they are admitting to an unemployment rate of 12.2-.5% which means we are really nearing 30%.

Cali has the largest pop of any state, 36 mil
It has a civilian work force of 18 mil
around 16 are working and 2.2 are considered unemployeed.
but with a little closer inspection its closer to the nonfarm industry number of 14.4 mil


67% of the population is in the working age range, as you can tell, 50% of the pop in cali is considered the workforce.

The reason unemplyment is around 27%, of the workforce, so more like 13 mil working and 4.86 mil not working. Since california is 12% of the US's population, and increase here does affect the national number, not much, but more than anyone else.

of the 150 mil considered the nations workforce, right now 15 mil are not working, officially. the reality is more like 25% overall.

Think about this trend ladies and gents. No new jobs are being created, no new industry arising. this income loss means that every industry will be affected, all incomes of business will be dramatically affected. Food will go down the least, next fuel.

But retailers will be hot to the tune of 40% losses, this will carry the same for construction, and all other non nessecity industries. This will result in more layoffs.

This christmas season will seal that deal. when the 65% of the middle income people spend 50% of what they did even last year which was 50% of what it was the year before.
http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/holiday/

We all know that without the holiday shopping most retailers would go belly up. 50-75% of their business occurs for that shopping period. The sales cut down to 65% of the total sales last year, These retailers are gonna craps themselves.

The only industry going up, is government based jobs, either direct or indirect, aka homeland security, border patrol, construction of gov facilies, military complexes. and some infrastructure.

This is where people normally say, "see they are making new jobs!" well most of these things were years in the making, they were approved a year or more ago. But never the less, these jobs are not real producers, they use tax money, well this is like a snake that is eating itself. Jobs financed from taxes, when the tax base income is going through the floor, will not stimulate anything except a few people for a short time.

The government has been in a budget issue with 4-5% unemployment, triple that and see what happens to their budget? add in the fact that they are spending even more and what do you get?

This crash is not a maybe, it will and has to happen. Its simple fact. They should be slowing their spending, and letting up on taxation on the american people. Let the people have their own money and they can spend more.

We need to re-establish our agricultural, construction, and manufacturing base.