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Overunity Machines Forum



A Morality Issue Poll

Started by masster, July 15, 2010, 09:51:07 AM

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What would you do if one day you create a solid-state, overunity, easy to replicate device capable of supplying free energy for your home and your car ?

I would advertise it and sell it to the highest bidder
I would file a petition for a patent
I would take the secret to my grave, fed up with people's low moral
I would give it free to mankind by posting all details on internet
I would keep it secret for not being killed
I would upscale and weaponize it

Nihilanth

Quote from: XS-NRG on July 28, 2010, 11:10:01 AM
You start your own busness and make a lot of money.
Then there will be a point where you can sit back and relax if you do it the right way.
Simple isn't it?
But not everyone can be a rich do-nothing. There are other people in the business who'd have to do the work. And there's no guarantee it would last.

Quote from: XS-NRG on July 28, 2010, 11:10:01 AM
Okay so from this answer i make up you are living in some sort of dream world and you are thinking free energy will solve all the problems in the world...it isn't going to happen.
Free energy isn't going to change a thing other then a cleaner biosphere.
Things still need to be done, sure you can transport goods with a free energy powered truck, but it still needs a driver.
You should think some more about it.
If everyone can their own goods made with autonomous freely-powered machinery, then why would it need to be transported? Autonomous vehicles, and autonomous everything-else-I-can-think-of are constantly becoming more developed & practical. The only real hurdles come from power supplies & programming.

Quote from: XS-NRG on July 28, 2010, 11:10:01 AM
Okay so now i am getting a bit angry.
Now you are talking plain bullshit here.
It is clear to me you do not know what you are talking about.
You're becoming angry because you're argument is getting more futile and you're refusing to accept it.[/quote]

Quote from: XS-NRG on July 28, 2010, 11:10:01 AMMy entire house is solar powered and i cannot call it weak, you just need to install enough panels.
I sometimes disconnect the battery's when there is too much sun, weak no way!
Sure they are not too efficient but hey i have all the energy i need.
It does not need maintance at all and BPsolar gives a 25 year power gurantee and you call that a replacement every few years...i am sure they go well over 25 years actually.
If you do not now what you are talking about i suggest you shut up.
My solar panels do not even come close to the cost of my research and development! they are cheap compared to that.
Please buy some!!! then we can talk again.I recommend them!!!
I won't buy some because they are too expensive for me to afford. And considering the number of panels required for adequate power, I have to imagine how much of my property would need to be covered in them, and how not everyone has the real estate to put them on. The area of my roof(and the roofs of almost everyone I know) that faces the sun during the day, is 12 by 18 feet. How many watts can solar produce with that much space? How much do you pay for all these panels? And if you think solar is so great, then why are you putting money into energy research and development when you think you've got it so well made?

25 years is a descent step up, considering that they used to last about 5 years.

Quote from: XS-NRG on July 28, 2010, 11:10:01 AM
Your appliance does not care about where the power comes from. Nothing changes other then you do not have to pay for the energy...
Except for not having to worry about it breaking down, or replacing dead batteries, or needing to be anchored to plots of land, or paying for fuel, the list goes on.

Quote from: XS-NRG on July 28, 2010, 11:10:01 AM
I am here to see if there are people that can convince me, that i should share my work.
But people like you even make me wanne leave.
What does anything I've said have to do with that? By the looks of it I'm guessing you invent some kind of solar panel?

Quote from: XS-NRG on July 28, 2010, 11:10:01 AM
You have no idea what is 2 inches in front of my eyes.
I am looking for reasons i have only seen one yet.
About our future children living in a clean environment and that they deserve it.
Well, for starters we did kinda screw up the environment & are leaving it for them to deal with. And the second (and better) reason is that if they're not wasting all of their youthful effort on trying to clean up the environment & powering their cars & what have you, they could be spending their time on luxuries for us to use, and medical advancements like life-extending technology.

Quote from: XS-NRG on July 28, 2010, 11:10:01 AMCurrent electrical systems are very dangerous.
The ac comming from the wall can kill you.
I can touch the poles of my battery's without dying or getting a shock.
It takes more metal at lower voltages so bigger wires have to be used for the same power.
That's about the only drawback i can think of.

But you are right FE appliances have to be safe.
It's quite hard to achieve because most of them use high voltages and can go into melt down.
That's why I think we should be more focused on scalable, low-amp methods for generating FE, so more people can replicate it with less chance of killing themselves.
"I think it's better to have ideas [than beliefs.] You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier. Life should malleable and progressive; working from idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit growth; new ideas can't generate. Life becomes stagnant." - Rufus the 13 Apostle.

XS-NRG

Quote from: Nihilanth on July 27, 2010, 09:26:32 PM

Well if you're so smart, why are you here?

Quote from: XS-NRG on July 28, 2010, 11:10:01 AM

I am here to see if there are people that can convince me, that i should share my work.
But people like you even make me wanne leave.


I am not going to spend anymore time on this meaningless discussion.
It's not worth my time, sorry.

Good luck on your free energy device.

Nihilanth

Why did you switch the times & order of our posts?
If you want to leave because people keep asking reasonable questions, then I honestly doubt you have anything of value to share.
"I think it's better to have ideas [than beliefs.] You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier. Life should malleable and progressive; working from idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit growth; new ideas can't generate. Life becomes stagnant." - Rufus the 13 Apostle.

sparks

       Safety issues are huge when it comes to unlimited energy.   But if you dont do it who is going to do it.  The department of energy suppose to be doing it with US taxpayers dollars but this department has been reduced to handing out grant money to scientists and Universities that end up giving the technological advances of the lab into the hands of corporations,  Unlimited energy is unlimited power.  It belongs in no human group that I can think of.  We are going to need some help with this one.
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masster

@Nihilanth & XS-NRG
now we know your pro & against arguments concerning our topic. there is no need (nor possible) to convince each other of your better judgment, thus showing us at a small scale where we stand today.

because you are both well spoken "free energy" advocates, I am asking you to debate a subject that everybody seems to avoid: what was the choice of past and present legendary free energy inventors concerning our poll ? and why did they choose so.

here's a list of such inventors in a random order (feel free to add to discussion any other inventor of a SSFED)
Nikola Tesla
Floyd Sweet
Ed Gray
Donald Smith
Steven Mark