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The information about the 2000 mile long spaceship which will appear on October 14th 2008 is a possible delusion that is fabricated by some of the secret agencies like CIA or the British Secret Service. The goal is to HIT us - the BELIEVERS in UFO and Extraterrestrials. After 14th is gone without something important happened, many will lose their faith and will become sceptics. And that's what THEY wanted all along. To BREAK us!

So, my brothers and sisters, my advice is don't get disappointed if nothing happens that day! It'll happen other time under other circumstances. The elite can't lie to us forever! The truth WILL some day come out and it will like a avalanche sweep them out once and for all!

Oh yes.  :D

Now that's very slick.  :D

I realize you are trying to get your message out, but I have I a better idea. How about you all just quit setting dates all together. Then you might not be as susceptible to looking totally foolish.

Quote from: Reformator on September 26, 2008, 01:13:06 PM
The information about the 2000 mile long spaceship which will appear on October 14th 2008 is a possible delusion that is fabricated by some of the secret agencies like CIA or the British Secret Service. The goal is to HIT us - the BELIEVERS in UFO and Extraterrestrials. After 14th is gone without something important happened, many will lose their faith and will become sceptics. And that's what THEY wanted all along. To BREAK us!

So, my brothers and sisters, my advice is don't get disappointed if nothing happens that day! It'll happen other time under other circumstances. The elite can't lie to us forever! The truth WILL some day come out and it will like a avalanche sweep them out once and for all!

Reformator

I  don't  think that there is  anything  to worry  about.

I still have a few  doubts   about  if we will see a ship or not  .
UFOs  and aliens are not really part of my path.

I  can say  with certainty  that  something is  going  to happen .
I can also  say with certainty   that  it is   being  done mostly from the higher  densitys .
There  is nothing physical that  anyone on earth can do to  stop  the plans set in motion in the higher  densitys .

gary

Howdy Reformator,

Sure, that date and this information could be a ruse, but it could be real.  There are a wide variety of sources where the information is coming from.  I doubt that the "powers that be" could influence all of these sources simultaneously.  However it is possible.

Like Resonanceman said this is coming from the through higher densities in accordance with directives from Heaven.  We will be seeing something, perhaps not what our preconceived notions want to see, but something.  I can tell something is happening.  I have felt the perturbations in the ethers for most of this year and they are getting stronger.  I feel things changing within myself and this is not imagined.  I have had a weird ass year and I think it is only going to get weirder.  I have logged these occurrences in the forums here, and you can look back through my posts and see what I am talking about.  Besides all that I have already seen ships...

BTW, Resonanceman, I saw another one on Wednesday night...

Blessed Be...

Quote from: ResinRat2 on September 26, 2008, 01:21:21 PM
Oh yes.  :D

Now that's very slick.  :D

I realize you are trying to get your message out, but I have I a better idea. How about you all just quit setting dates all together. Then you might not be as susceptible to looking totally foolish.

Resinrat

I think you  are missing the point completely .

The point of  all this   is  to get people  out of  the  idea that life is only  physical and  we are the only  " intelligence that exists .

The  fact that  we  have  more than a few people  willing to  risk  reputation  and more on  information that they received  from  above is not  just a coincidence.

I am sure  you  disagree with  my statement that the information is " from above"
There  are many levels  above the  earth plane.
There is no  reason that  God   shouldn't  use  them  to  aid in communication with us. 

The simple  truth is   people have been  taught  for a very long time that   they are  physical.

The  truth is   life is  spiritual.     
Rather than  live for  wealth  and power  as we have been taught   we should all  be focusing on  God as the very center of  who  we are.
The  people that are  taking the risk and  speaking out   are more spiritually aware than most of us.
These people are  doing their best to serve the ALL  rather than just themselves .
I have great respect for them even if  the ship never shows up.

gary

Anyone else wish these posts would get moved to another site, or locked?

Seriously.  If anything these posts are here to scare off the more scientific people who visit this site, and attract the non-scientific folks.   These really do kill the credibility of this site, and probably scare off good posters.  So... Why not go find another forum for this stuff???

Since when does Overunity have to do with Aliens, anyway?
(please don't attempt to answer this question)

Howdy Newbie123,

Aliens have technology that is far in advance of ours.  Why would that scare off "scientific" people?  I am excited about the opportunity of learning about highly advanced alien technology, and I am sure there are many more people here who are just as excited about this as I am.  Their ships are powered by radiant energy.  This radiant energy runs their electrogravity propulsion system.  That is orgasmic technologically speaking.  These beings have ships that utilize technology that is both free energy and anti-gravity in one unit and you are saying that this doesn't belong here?

Are you saying that I am not a "scientific" person?  Well, lets see I'm an EE, and a CID+, is that not "scientific" enough.  Well lets look at my hobbies.  I have been pursuing free energy for 20 years, and recently started building an electrogravity system, still not "scientific" enough?  Hmmm, I don't know what to tell you Newbie123.  Maybe I should go ask the guy I work with, who is a double PhD, what exactly "scientific" is?

Blessed Be...

@newbie123

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5605.0/topicseen.html (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5605.0/topicseen.html)

@z.monkey

I'm sure that if aliens show up with advanced tech we'll all want to talk about it 24/7 for the rest of our lives. But until then it's kinda distracting to those of us interested in terrestrial OU research. Just an opinion.

tak

Everybody still  uses the 2000Mile figure, I thought that was revised shortly after to 2 miles?(would have to go looking back at the posts)
Anyway your theory depends upon the source and his intentions.
If he was sincere than all other is immaterial.
professor

Quote from: Reformator on September 26, 2008, 01:13:06 PM
The information about the 2000 mile long spaceship which will appear on October 14th 2008 is a possible delusion that is fabricated by some of the secret agencies like CIA or the British Secret Service. The goal is to HIT us - the BELIEVERS in UFO and Extraterrestrials. After 14th is gone without something important happened, many will lose their faith and will become sceptics. And that's what THEY wanted all along. To BREAK us!

So, my brothers and sisters, my advice is don't get disappointed if nothing happens that day! It'll happen other time under other circumstances. The elite can't lie to us forever! The truth WILL some day come out and it will like a avalanche sweep them out once and for all!

I feel bad for anyone that would have taken that October 14th BS Hok Line and Sinker. This is one woo woo New Agey channeling that (God knows why) became famous.

I have been reading this kind of BS of dates for a mass sighting since 2002. And they have a perfect score of being absolutely wrong. Believe me, paying attention to so called "channelings" are the surest way to made an ass of yourself.

With all due of respect, what if things did happen as predicted, would it make an ass out of you?
I don't think so ! You have a right to choose.
I have mixed feelings because many things have been predicted in the Past that  never came  to pass.
However there are some Psychics like Edgar Casey just to name one, that were right on the Button.
The way things are progressing we all hope that something good happens.
It is just our human nature ,myself included. Let us keep our hope!  You and I can not solve all the current problems.
Do you believe in God? - I do ! -  Do I have absolute proof! - No!   Do I have faith! -Yes! 
professor

Quote from: ChileanOne on September 27, 2008, 12:54:21 AM
I feel bad for anyone that would have taken that October 14th BS Hok Line and Sinker. This is one woo woo New Agey channeling that (God knows why) became famous.

I have been reading this kind of BS of dates for a mass sighting since 2002. And they have a perfect score of being absolutely wrong. Believe me, paying attention to so called "channelings" are the surest way to made an ass of yourself.

Quote from: ChileanOne on September 27, 2008, 12:54:21 AM
I feel bad for anyone that would have taken that October 14th BS Hok Line and Sinker. This is one woo woo New Agey channeling that (God knows why) became famous.

I have been reading this kind of BS of dates for a mass sighting since 2002. And they have a perfect score of being absolutely wrong. Believe me, paying attention to so called "channelings" are the surest way to made an ass of yourself.

October, 14th is the date? Hooray! I am glad they'll come....

I've been reading through similar "end of our civilisation/ alien attack scenario's & dates" for a long time, too.

Where are they? Why are these Aliens pictured so unfriendly(sometimes)? If they're evolved and advanced enough, why would they harm us?

OK, let's wait for the 14th.
He he...
It'll be fun!

Howdy Y'all,

Viva la Galactic Federation!

Blessed Be...

Quote from: professor on September 27, 2008, 01:35:24 AM
With all due of respect, what if things did happen as predicted, would it make an ass out of you?
I don't think so ! You have a right to choose.
I have mixed feelings because many things have been predicted in the Past that  never came  to pass.
However there are some Psychics like Edgar Casey just to name one, that were right on the Button.
The way things are progressing we all hope that something good happens.
It is just our human nature ,myself included. Let us keep our hope!  You and I can not solve all the current problems.
Do you believe in God? - I do ! -  Do I have absolute proof! - No!   Do I have faith! -Yes! 
professor

Well, I must say that, even as I sounded like a skeptic, I am not at all one of those "ET does not exist and everyone that thinks so is a woo woo" guys. As a matter of fact, I know ET intelligent life exists, that they are even living among us, and have bases all over the planet. Also they have been here long before than us, and in many senses, we are also ET as of not original in this planet.

What I don't buy is all the "channeling" stuff. I was, well a while ago, and avid reader of whatever channeled material became available. It was a complete waste of time, and none of the promissed mass sightings ever took place. Later I learnt that channelings are a real phenomenon, in the sense that is a real contact with a non human conciousness, the problem is that those beings that are channeled, are not precisely playing the game in our favor.

Regards.

I have just recently (within 48 hours) learned of this october 14th thing. Is it just me, or doesn't this remind anyone of the movie "Independence Day" where all the people were up on top of the building with their welcome signs just before the ship destroyed it? I am not a negative creature by nature but neither am I a believer in religious beings (father figures) who look down on us from the heavens (ala George Carlin). I do however hold no ill will or lack of respect for those who believe differently than I. I have always held to the belief that anything we learn or experience can have a positive on our future achievements, therefore I look forward to any result (positive or otherwise) that comes from this speculated event. Meanwhile I will continue to work towards our energy solutions with an open mind and a hopeful heart.

Thanx
Dan Wilson Jr.

I know enough to know that nothing is for certain...but I think we all can feel that change is not far off

I find it hard to believe that we have a proactive 'god' or 'source'...more of a 'god on tap', so to speak...you know, ask and it shall be given - seek and you will find - knock and the door will be opened, etc. etc.

Much like the mother who suddenly gains the  super human strength to toss an automobile off her child.

I believe we are here to sink or swim on our own.

Regards...

Quote from: Reformator on September 26, 2008, 01:13:06 PM
The information about the 2000 mile long spaceship which will appear on October 14th 2008 is a possible delusion that is fabricated by some of the secret agencies like CIA or the British Secret Service. The goal is to HIT us - the BELIEVERS in UFO and Extraterrestrials. After 14th is gone without something important happened, many will lose their faith and will become sceptics. And that's what THEY wanted all along. To BREAK us!

So, my brothers and sisters, my advice is don't get disappointed if nothing happens that day! It'll happen other time under other circumstances. The elite can't lie to us forever! The truth WILL some day come out and it will like a avalanche sweep them out once and for all!

Hi Reformator,

It looks as if no matter what happens, the alien theorists are correct.  If a spaceship appears, then of course you were right.  If there's no ship, then this Oct 14 story was a hoax perpetrated by the CIA to discredit you all and help keep the aliens under wraps.  No matter what happens, you will interpret the results as supporting the existence of these aliens.  That means your theory is unfalsifiable (which is not a good thing).

Quote from: madsen on September 27, 2008, 11:16:33 AM

That means your theory is unfalsifiable (which is not a good thing).

That means  your theory is a belief.

Beliefs are  good!!!!!!!


Our  culture teaches us that intelect  should  rule  the world .
Our culture teaches us that if it can't be scientifically  proven it  isn't true .
Look where intelect  has taken us.
Our  world is  in  danger in many   ways because  of  our over dependence on intellect. 



The problem  with intellect is that it  doesn't connect you  to anything  else.      It keeps you  disconnected .
Most  of the  things that we call  evel in this world  would stop if we  truly believed  we were connected in some way.

All  those that  truly believe in God   believe because  they have felt something  within that compels  them to believe.
You can be taught  about God .  but  you can't be taught to  believe.
To believe you must be in touch with  a FEELING  within. 
This  feeling leaves no doubt . 
This  feeling is unfalsifiable .


Life is not  what  we have been taught  it is.
Life  is not an accident that happened on this  planet
All life is  connected.   All life  has  at its  very core  a feeling  of  connection.

If we  choose to ignore  that  feeling as we have been taught,  we can  sink lower than the animals.
It is  those  among us that  have chosen to ignore the spark  of divine  life  within  their  hearts that  are causing most of the problems on earth. 

When you  ignore that spark.     It is easy to intellectual  justify hurting  another for  personal  gain.


When   we follow intellect alone   we end up  seeking  power and greed .

When  we  look within and see the  divine  spark of life .  and  study that spark. ........our  life becomes  more filled  with peace and love. 

Intellect is not a bad thing.   but is is not the only thing.
Intellect needs to be tempered  with love......science as it is now doesn't allow that .

 
I BELIEVE  that something  wonderful  will happen  on or around  the 14th .
I don't  believe it because of  what I have been told or what I have read .
I believe it because of  a feeling in my heart.
This  feeling can't be explained. 
This  feeling can't  be understood by intellect ..  only those that believe can understand this belief. 


gary

Quote from: resonanceman on September 27, 2008, 12:10:49 PM
That means  your theory is a belief.

Beliefs are  good!!!!!!!

<snip>

Hi gary,

Thanks for the reply, and for bringing up the distinction between theory and belief.  My "theory" on this matter is that the Oct 14 announcement is a hoax of some sort, and that there are no aliens involved.  If, however, a giant spaceship appears on Oct 14, then my theory will be falsified, and I will have learned something.  I can then incorporate this information into my new theory, which will hopefully be closer to the actual truth.

On the other hand, no matter what happens on Oct 14, Reformator's belief in the existence of aliens will remain unchanged.  If his belief is wrong, then he won't find out (at least not as a result of the outcome of this incident). 

I would be interested to hear if Reformator knows of any way to test his/her belief on this subject. 

Quote from: madsen on September 27, 2008, 12:40:14 PM




I would be interested to hear if Reformator knows of any way to test his/her belief on this subject. 

Madsen

Belief is not something you test.

Testing a belief is an intelectual  thing.   
If you feel the need to test your belief  you really don't  believe.

The real proof  of a belief  comes from living  that belief.

I have a strong  dislike for  religion 
That  does not mean  that I  don't believe in God.
I have  found that God is not like  most religions teach.
God  is not  some  big mean  old man  sitting on top of  a cloud somewhere.
God  is love.
If you  wish to know  God . .....study love.
Study  what brings you a feeling of love.
Study what  causes you to loose that feeling of love.
The more  you  fill your heart with love.   the more God  will fill your life.

If  you   truely study love ........you WILL find PROOF of God .
It will not be  proof that  can  be  shown to others.
The  proof  will be in the form of   an unfalsifiable feeling in your heart .


gary

Quote from: resonanceman on September 27, 2008, 01:00:39 PM
Madsen

Belief is not something you test.

Testing a belief is an intelectual  thing.   
If you feel the need to test your belief  you really don't  believe.

The real proof  of a belief  comes from living  that belief.

I have a strong  dislike for  religion 
That  does not mean  that I  don't believe in God.
I have  found that God is not like  most religions teach.
God  is not  some  big mean  old man  sitting on top of  a cloud somewhere.
God  is love.
If you  wish to know  God . .....study love.
Study  what brings you a feeling of love.
Study what  causes you to loose that feeling of love.
The more  you  fill your heart with love.   the more God  will fill your life.

If  you   truely study love ........you WILL find PROOF of God .
It will not be  proof that  can  be  shown to others.
The  proof  will be in the form of   an unfalsifiable feeling in your heart .


gary

Hi gary,

I'm open to the possibility that there might be kinds of knowledge that are completely personal, i.e., that can't be transferred from one person to another using logic, evidence, etc.  But it seems to me that we are discussing a very straightforward question here:  Are there aliens involved in the Oct 14 announcement, or is it just a hoax?  I don't see the need to bring God, love, my personal feelings, and so on into the discussion. 

In any case, we don't have a lot to go on at this point; what actually happens on Oct 14 should settle the question, IMHO.  I have to give z.monkey credit for not hedging here, but rather making a firm prediction. 

ChileanOne
There are Channelers and there are others that just call themselves Channelers or psychics or whatever.
Its not cut and dry.Nothing is.
But did you know that the U.S. Military is using Channelers only they call it remote viewing.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing
There were many Channelers (Psychics) throughout History,which had proven time after time to be correct.  That info is on the Web. Read about Edgar Casey being one of them. Most of them were either born that way or acquired the skills after a serious illness.
I am just not  triggerhappy  to debunk anything until proven wrong.
professor

Quote from: ChileanOne on September 27, 2008, 09:46:15 AM
Well, I must say that, even as I sounded like a skeptic, I am not at all one of those "ET does not exist and everyone that thinks so is a woo woo" guys. As a matter of fact, I know ET intelligent life exists, that they are even living among us, and have bases all over the planet. Also they have been here long before than us, and in many senses, we are also ET as of not original in this planet.

What I don't buy is all the "channeling" stuff. I was, well a while ago, and avid reader of whatever channeled material became available. It was a complete waste of time, and none of the promissed mass sightings ever took place. Later I learnt that channelings are a real phenomenon, in the sense that is a real contact with a non human conciousness, the problem is that those beings that are channeled, are not precisely playing the game in our favor.

Regards.

Hi;

National Press-Club 2007:

   http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=9202898100879764999


Regards

Kator

Quote from: madsen on September 27, 2008, 01:59:45 PM

.  But it seems to me that we are discussing a very straightforward question here:  Are there aliens involved in the Oct 14 announcement, or is it just a hoax? 
I personally  have not  been able to verify with my higher self that there will be an actual  ship  that will be  visible to all .
I am  comletely sure that it is not  a hoax.   
I don't normally  deal with  aliens or  their ships.
I do deal with energy.   The  energy behind the messages is open honest and loving.   



I don't see the need to bring God, love, my personal feelings, and so on into the discussion. 

That is  exactly my point.
Most of humanity  have separated themselves from their  feelings.....their inner self.
I am not  criticising   you.    You are normal.   

I am not going to  ramble on about this .
You don't feel  open to these kinds of thing to me.   

All I am going to say is that life lived  from a feeling of connection  within is  MUCH  different than  a life lived disconnected .
I was disconnected  for  39 years  before  I understood  the  difference .   



gary 

Can they fit 800 billion dollars in a spaceship 2000 miles across?  Or is that really where our money is going?  Is Al Gore making a withdrawl and leaving the planet before it melts? lmao

amazing this was shortly after my posting that it all could be a hoax crafted to sway semi believers into non beilief!!!

I love it capitolisim at its best. Thank You Google Ad Sense!

Im sure the CIA isn't able to persuade another spirit to enter a channels body and give false information while at the same time duping the channels protective entities that watch over all channels during these sessions to ensure protection.

Its more likely that this thread was started to create a negativity to attempt to prevent the positive energies around october 14th and this is the most likely scenario for the CIA to attempt.

Well it doesnt work for me  ;D

Quote from: Reformator on September 26, 2008, 01:13:06 PM
The information about the 2000 mile long spaceship which will appear on October 14th 2008
is a possible delusion that is fabricated by some of the secret agencies like CIA

I am still puzzled about the EVIDENCE for the appearance of this craft on that day.
Paul.

Quote from: z.monkey on September 26, 2008, 02:57:23 PM
Howdy Newbie123,

Aliens have technology that is far in advance of ours. 

Then surely they could figure out how to broadcast across our media and not rely on the "chosen few" channelers...

Quote from: Paul-R on September 28, 2008, 10:02:38 AM
I am still puzzled about the EVIDENCE for the appearance of this craft on that day.
Paul.

There can  be no physical  proof   until the physical  proof is  in the  sky above us .

Either you  believe   or you don't .

Those that  don't  believe   will not  believe no matter  what  evidence is  presented to them .
If the  aliens in the ships  beamed  videos of  their  ships.  We would see   the  skeptics  say  something like ......someone  bounced these images off a satellite,   they  look  impressive but  the  ships  in the movie independence day  were more impressive than this .   

There is no  evidence that  we can  understand that  we  couldn't   fake .
So  it will  be assumed it is fake ,.
If we can't understand it  we won't   realize it is evidence .

gary

Quote from: resonanceman
Either you  believe   or you don't .

Those that  don't  believe   will not  believe no matter  what  evidence is  presented to them .

I don't think that's true. I think that there are those that would rather not "believe" anything until proof is presented because "belief" implies an emotional investment and you can't be an objective student of the sciences if your judgement is tempered with emotion regarding the subject matter.

If you believe and it does not happen, you get let down.
If you are a hardcore neo-con skeptic you will ignore obvious evidence.
If, however, you are like the type of people who visit this board (more involved with science and experimentation than the average person) you don't get your hopes up because it's not about hope, it either happens or it doesn't.

Look at how there is a difference with each new OU/FE "breakthrough", you can tell the skeptics from the generally curious easily. You can also spot the con-men. If I looked at each thread here with great hope and expectation I would have been done with this site long ago.

let go of your emotional attachment and re-read the "aliens" thread purely objectively...
the main players who refer to christ x and christ y as if what was channeled were actual truth... come on. The MOMENT they mixed religion with the coming alien event was the moment my "LOONY" meter flashes red.

The other thread actually got me on a decent google chase about all things paranormal... I have decided to put some of this to the test... I have NO expectations good or bad about the outcome, just a curiousity.
THe subject is Telekinetics... more than one site offers to teach you how to do it for a fee (and further digging finds even MORE that teach you to do it for free... They universally claim that we ALL have this ability.
So I will set up an experiment, 5 or 10 minutes a day, to try and move a pen across a cloth (to eliminate stray wind from the equation) from tomorrow until the end of the year (well beyond their several weeks estimated results timeline) and keep record of the results...
IF it actually works, then I may need to re-think the rest of the "alternative" pseudo-sciences
IF it doesn't work, then I can assume that the rest is garbage as well...

Sounds fair to me, easy experiment, supposedly ANYONE can do it... and I have no emotional involvement one way or the other... PURE science!

As for the aliens, the fanatics will believe even if no ship appears, the skeptics will doubt even as a ship hovers above, but I am sure the rest of us are just gonna wait and see and go from there.

Not like I don't agree there's gotta be a better way (almost 40 still in my basement lab trying to decompose water with radio waves and magnets without substantial success yet) but I doubt an E.T. version of Deus ex Machina is going to solve out problems on 10/14/08 or any other date... we need to do that ourselves.

I think this thread is all about hedging bets.

If the Aliens don't turn up on cue it's all a CIA plot or some dastardly scheme of the Illuminati.

Get real, nothing is going to happen except a whole heap more bullshit from where that came from.

Stop contaminating people's heads with this fanciful crap. (That is what the tooth-fairy asked me to tell you)

Hans von Lieven

Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 28, 2008, 11:14:49 PM
I think this thread is all about hedging bets.

If the Aliens don't turn up on cue it's all a CIA plot or some dastardly scheme of the Illuminati.

Get real, nothing is going to happen except a whole heap more bullshit from where that came from.

Stop contaminating people's heads with this fanciful crap. (That is what the tooth-fairy asked me to tell you)

Hans von Lieven

@Hans,

(That is what the tooth-fairy asked me to tell you)

Thanks for the laugh.

Regards, Larry

Quote from: hypersoniq on September 28, 2008, 04:40:03 PM
let go of your emotional attachment and re-read the "aliens" thread purely objectively...
the main players who refer to christ x and christ y as if what was channeled were actual truth... come on. The MOMENT they mixed religion with the coming alien event was the moment my "LOONY" meter flashes red.

Howdy Hypersoniq,

Yeah, most people can't relate these two.  Most people think of aliens as evil grays and religion as televangelists.  Those of you who use association and incomplete information will always get it wrong.  If you want to pass judgment on an event like this need to have all the information.  Your opinions are not facts, and what you feel is irrelevant.  I have spent almost a year researching the Galactic Federation.  Of course I can't convince you or Hans.  You probably won't even believe it when you see it.  You'll think its a hologram or a mental aberration, pity...

Blessed Be...

Quote from: z.monkey on September 29, 2008, 05:25:00 AM
Your opinions are not facts, and what you feel is irrelevant.

Ditto  ::)

16 days...

Howdy Hypersoniq,

I assume that you have been reading the 10/14/2008 thread.  I have had two separate sightings so far.  4 ships on 09/23/2008 at around 9:30 AM, and a single ship on 09/24/2008 at around 9:00PM.  So, I guess you don't feel that this is an indicator of things to come?  Or, do you completely dismiss my opinion because I lit up your "Loony" meter?  Yes we will see within a fortnight...

Blessed Be...

i "feel" coherancy, regarding the october 14th announcement.

this feeling is very familiar too me.
i have used it to figure out all kinds of shit in life.
i even used it to graduate from highschool, off of minimal study.

this feelings is like being able to see where a ruined house once stood, because the outline of its foundation remains. even though the rest of the house is long gone.

or being able to read what a sign says, even though there are several large holes punched into it.
because the remaining parts of the sign that you "can" see, allow you to educated guess at what the whole sign once looked like.


i DO NOT feel "bullshit", from the october 14th announcement.
it is rare, that something feels completely bullshit-free to me.
because even the clearest of people, have garbage in their communications.



i'm so certain about the feeling, that i've staked my reputation on it to my friends.

though i went a step further, and made a bet with my ex.
if the aliens show up on october 14th, she has to take back all the bad things she has ever said about me.

if the aliens show up BEFORE october 14th, she has to have sex with me whenever i want.

if the aliens don't show up on october 14th, she might talk some more garbage at me. but i doubt she has the mental resolve to never talk to me again.



i have other reasons for being confident in the october 14th announcement.
but too many of the people in this thread are foolish assholes, who would jump at the chance to pointlessly attack another persons meaning.

so i'm not giving an opening, to do meaningless damage to my life.

Without an intent to side rail this thread, perhaps a date for anything occurring could be Oct.7 seeing there's a lot of chatter on the forums about that specific date. Too many "coincidences" (if you believe in such a thing - I don't) show an accumulation of events leading up to Oct.7.

As for the Oct.14, I guess it could be Oct.14/15, as someone mentioned that (elsewhere) from the Astrological point of view it being Mercury Retrograde/Full Moon combo. :)

the new sheldon nidle update, indicates this:


* THE BANKS OF THE WORLD, ARE NO LONGER INTERACTING WITH US BANKS!

* because US banks have failed to comply with basil II requirements.

* and that the above, is the true reason for the bailout.



all US banks will DIE soon, if they cannot interact with the rest of the worlds banks.

the above development strongly supports the october 7th date.


it also explains why the aliens chose october 14th, to do a flyover.
because october 14th is long enough after the 7th, for the economic problems to be realized by the population.

yet gives enough time before the november elections, for the flyover to make an "impression" upon the population.

Did we really need another topic on this stupid date?

Quote from: resonanceman on September 27, 2008, 12:10:49 PMOur  culture teaches us that intellect should rule the world.
Our culture teaches us that if it can't be scientifically  proven it  isn't true.
Look where intellect has taken us.
Our  world is in danger in many ways because of our over dependence on intellect.

So says the man using a computer. lol

Can you make something from nothing? Can you take absolutely NOTHING and make an Electron?

Nop, you cant do that. You have to have at least something before you can make something. you cant make something from absolutely nothing!!!

My point is, YOU are here, on this EARTH. Do not think for one second you was not put here by GOD. Several will be punished when the,their, time comes. However it works, its not to my knowledge. But, Aliens could be GODS ANGELS. The Happy stars in the skys could be gods angels. Then again it could be the deviles. We do not know, we just no something, something put us here.

Something is More powerful than anything you could ever imagine. Don't Ever Doubt That!

How many crazy pills do I have to take to see this thing?  I believe in extraterrestrial life and all, just by probability....But, I'd sure like to see this kind of thing for real....

On another note, reading through this thread would definitely turn some "serious" people away due to the nuttiness that's been displayed here.... just my two cents on that argument.

"Do not think for one second you was not put here by god"

Too fucking bad. I think that all the time, and If you want me to change my ways, then too fucking bad. No amount of trolling and bible-thumping will change that. If you don't like it, tough shit.

Quote from: Nihilanth on October 01, 2008, 04:42:25 AM
Did we really need another topic on this stupid date?

Yes, we evidently did. The same wankers that started the original bullshit are now using this thread to hedge their bets.

Have a look at the names. Tells it all. And not one of them is prepared to come out under anything but an anonymous alias.

I challenge these masturbators. I am real. My name, my picture is out there and a lot of people here in the forum know my telephone number and address. Some have visited me. I am not hiding.

Stop hiding you cowards if you really believe you have something of value to say.

Otherwise  PISS OFF

Hans von Lieven

Quote from: Spewing on October 01, 2008, 05:27:42 AM
Can you make something from nothing? Can you take absolutely NOTHING and make an Electron?

Nop, you cant do that. You have to have at least something before you can make something. you cant make something from absolutely nothing!!!

My point is, YOU are here, on this EARTH. Do not think for one second you was not put here by GOD. Several will be punished when the,their, time comes. However it works, its not to my knowledge. But, Aliens could be GODS ANGELS. The Happy stars in the skys could be gods angels. Then again it could be the deviles. We do not know, we just no something, something put us here.

Something is More powerful than anything you could ever imagine. Don't Ever Doubt That!

But what made God?  Does God have a God too?  And if so, who made that God?  And if God's God had a God, who made God's God's God?  And if. . .

Quote from: Nihilanth on October 01, 2008, 11:44:35 PM
"Do not think for one second you was not put here by god"

Too fucking bad. I think that all the time, and If you want me to change my ways, then too fucking bad. No amount of trolling and bible-thumping will change that. If you don't like it, tough shit.

Can you make something from nothing? Can you take absolutely NOTHING and make an Electron?

Nop, you cant do that. You have to have at least something before you can make something. you cant make something from absolutely nothing!!!

Quote from: utilitarian on October 02, 2008, 02:37:00 AM
But what made God?  Does God have a God too?  And if so, who made that God?  And if God's God had a God, who made God's God's God?  And if. . .

NO

God is Alpha and Omega, He is Both, The Beginning and the End. Define God, He/Man/Person/ should not define him, as the word "him" is misleading as eye's have never seen him. Nobody has any knowledge of who or what god is. God has meaning, Our brains lack, Void as we are from him who is from nothing. Find this place in your brain, you'll find its not there. Seek help.   

look.....


the entire universe, is made of sound and light.
it is a HOLOGRAM!
a complex, convincing computer program.

the universe is designed to train us.
train us how to build and maintain our own universes.

train us one reincarnation at a time.
from the basic chemical-level in 1D, to the universe-level in 12D.



"god", is just a really experienced soul.
he happens to have the administrative password, to the universe.

he is running this instructional simulation.
and all he wants, is for us to spiritually develop.
gaining access to more creative abilities, the more understanding we learn.


until one day, we know just as much as he does.
so that we can go off, and run our own universes.
and educate our own vast hordes, of trillions of souls each.

until each one of those trillions of souls, is the equal of us and "god".
maybe so that we can all have a "god-party" together.......

I think this is the way for our government to get us outside!

I think they will try and drop gas on us, or release insects to give us viruses like they did before. Scarry.

It has been reported that God has recently rejected an offer for a role on 'Crime and Punishment'..but he/she in god like fashion will be making a cameo appearance on a past episode of 'Karma and Greg'. :)

Regards...

Quote from: Spewing on October 02, 2008, 02:42:16 AM
NO

God is Alpha and Omega, He is Both, The Beginning and the End. Define God, He/Man/Person/ should not define him, as the word "him" is misleading as eye's have never seen him. Nobody has any knowledge of who or what god is. God has meaning, Our brains lack, Void as we are from him who is from nothing. Find this place in your brain, you'll find its not there. Seek help.   

Now you are just making things up as you go along.

Quote from: resonanceman on September 28, 2008, 03:56:21 PM
There can  be no physical  proof   until the physical  proof is  in the  sky above us .

Either you  believe   or you don't .

So, it is about faith, is it? And if we do not have faith, then presumably, we are
bad people because we lack the Grace which would have given us the faith.

It is a load of balloon juice.

Howdy Y'all,

God is The All, you are a bit of The All (even you Hans),  The Aliens are also bits of The All.  Hermetic Philosophy sums it up quite nicely.  If you want to understand this better seek communion with your higher Godself and it will explain it to you in no uncertain terms.  The universes exist in the Mind of The All so (like Nitinnun says) this is all a fantastic illusion, a very realistic computer simulation.  You, and everything else, exist as a thought forms in the Mind of The All.  So lets hope that God (The All) doesn't stop thinking about us...

Blessed Be...

If they do appear I will instantly start protesting our governments to stop the cover up!

I will carry the camera with me and tripod..

If I see nothing and nobody else does I am going to hack that Womans website and replace the front page with a picture of a Donkey...

 This thread is becoming ridiculous. There maybe life on other planets but to say for sure there are is wrong. None of us have seen other planets that contain life as we know it just as none of us has seen a god to say what a god is.

Lets stay focused on reality and give the rest the benefit of the doubt. We should never claim there to be something that we have never personally seen and or heard.

Personally seeing and hearing is real, everything else is just hearsay.

I guess you missed the announcement of alien interaction with the all govts. by astronaut Edgar Mitchell then...its on site here somewhere.

Regards...

Quote from: Paul-R on October 02, 2008, 10:03:08 AM
So, it is about faith, is it? And if we do not have faith, then presumably, we are
bad people because we lack the Grace which would have given us the faith.

It is a load of balloon juice.

You're right, its black and white. But dont be so black and white and say that these belivers are false because you where raised in a beliefsystem that denies spirit.
Spirit can be wrong and therefor its spirit. Science is brute force - its that often wrong until it is right, its not a dicegame as spirit is. Spirit often helped Science remember that. Dreams are not yet explained.

Spirit rocks! and it feels good. Im not in any church by the way.

By everyone's description of god it sounds to me like god is no more then a personification of the 10th dimension.(And no, it's not literally saying that there are flat-landers, it's just supposed to help with explaining dimensions.) (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-97057222894136590&hl=en)

OR

Since I can never get a strait answer when I ask people to define love, it could just as simply be that god is a personification of Plato's concept of "The Good" which by definition also doesn't care what anyone does, because he'd be no more then an abstract concept. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good)


Chris Dias

Quote from: Nihilanth on October 03, 2008, 01:10:10 AM

I can never get a strait answer when I ask people to define love, it could just as simply be that god is a personification of Plato's concept of "The Good" which by definition also doesn't care what anyone does, because he'd be no more then an abstract concept.[/url]


Chris Dias

Chris

Why would  you  expect anyone to be able to give you  a strait  answer about  what love is?

Would  you give me a strait  answer if I asked you to define the  exact locations of every atom in the universe? 
Defining  the universe  atom by atom   is  an easier task than  defining love ..... our physical universe is  big  but not  truly infinite.   

Love is  infinite.
Love looks different  when  viewed from  different   perspectives .

Quantum physics  tells us  that everything is made of energy .......by that they mean physical energy .
Physical energy  is  made of  what I call  spiritual energy .
Spiritual  energy  is  love.

Love  binds  us  ......and holds  the  universe together.
To  the limited  awareness of  us  humans love   starts as an inner feeling of  connection .
Love is  the  feeling that  draws us to  a person or thing.   
The feeling that most people  think of as love is  not even the tip of the iceburg ........because  the iceburg is infinite ....... there is no limit to the amount  of  love you can experience . 

Of  course   you have to go about  experiencing  love  the right way to  get more of it.
Demanding  love from another is  a sure way to lose it .
Giving  love to another  is  a sure way to get more.
What you  give  comes back to you multiplied.


gary

Quote from: Paul-R on October 02, 2008, 10:03:08 AM
So, it is about faith, is it? And if we do not have faith, then presumably, we are
bad people because we lack the Grace which would have given us the faith.

I was not judging  anyone .......     I  now  usually choose to live  from faith       I have not always chosen  that.   
I don't  look down on  people that  choose  not  to believe as I do .

Life  would  be real boring  if we all had the same thoughts and beliefs .

Quote

It is a load of balloon juice.

It is a load of  milk? 


gary 

Quote from: resonanceman on October 03, 2008, 02:23:19 AMWhy would  you  expect anyone to be able to give you  a strait  answer about  what love is?

Because human-made words, have human-made definitions. Any word with out a definition is simply meaningless gibberish. I only ask you crazy love-nuts what love is because whatever definition you give, even if you used a dictionary (like I suggest you try next time) any half-brained reply you make makes you sound even more hilarious.

Quote from: resonanceman on October 03, 2008, 02:23:19 AM
Love is  infinite... Demanding  love from another is  a sure way to lose it . Giving  love to another  is  a sure way to get more.
What you  give  comes back to you multiplied.

Love = Infinite = Physical Energy = Spiritual Energy, but apparently you can loose love by demanding it. but since by your definition love is everything, and is infinite there's no possible way to loose it. You're so full of contradictions you must be on crack to think you're making any sense.

Also, by your definition since love is everything, it's also horse shit and satan. If you'd like to "convert me" I'd suggest you fight fire with fire, and by that I mean beat my logic with even better logic. Because no amount of preachy mumbo-jumbo will convince me otherwise. If there are alien lifeforms that want to save us in some kind of rapture, they're probably here to save those who think of "the good" rather then believe in a god.

Quote from: Nihilanth on October 03, 2008, 03:40:38 AM
I only ask you crazy love-nuts what love is because whatever definition you give, even if you used a dictionary (like I suggest you try next time)

There are man things in life that  can't be understood through  definitions . 
To  understand understand these thnigs  you have to experience them ..     This makes any  definition  less than ideal ....
If you  try to find love  based on  its definition  in the dictionary  you  are very likely to end up a very lonely person.

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any half-brained reply you make makes you sound even more hilarious.Love = Infinite = Physical Energy = Spiritual Energy, but apparently you can loose love by demanding it. but since by your definition love is everything, and is infinite there's no possible way to loose it. You're so full of contradictions you must be on crack to think you're making any sense.

I am glad that you are entertained by my ideas  .   :)

There is  no  contradictions  in what I said .     
Love is  the essence of what everything  else is based on.

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Of  course   you have to go about  experiencing  love  the right way to  get more of it.
Demanding  love from another is  a sure way to lose it .
Giving  love to another  is  a sure way to get more.
What you  give  comes back to you multiplied.

This is not  an explanation of what  love is.   This is a simple  practical  explanation  of  how to  experience  more of what love is. 

Other  simple practical  statments that help  people  acheive a greater  degree of love in their  lives  are.

Do unto others as you  would have  them do to  you . 
As  you  sow, so shall you  reap .
   

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Also, by your definition since love is everything, it's also horse shit and satan.

Yes .
Love  is even the  empty space  in atoms .

Quote

If you'd like to "convert me" I'd suggest you fight fire with fire, and by that I mean beat my logic with even better logic. Because no amount of preachy mumbo-jumbo will convince me otherwise. If there are alien lifeforms that want to save us in some kind of rapture, they're probably here to save those who think of "the good" rather then believe in a god.

I  don't  try to convert anyone .
If a person  has an open mind   my words might  help  them find  more peace  and happiness in their life .       
I think the  chance of that happening  is worth a little effort on my part. 

gary

Howdy Y'all,

Love is Radiant Energy.
Love is Mystical Power.
Love is Cold Electricity.
Love is Soft Particles.
Love is Tesla's Cosmic Rays.
Love is the Ether of which everything is composed.
Love is the Unified Field that Einstein was looking for.
Love is that which GOD created which everything else is composed (even Hans).

That which is indefinable yet is everything at the same time.  It is the that which should be, that already is.  It is a self-solving conundrum, and a self-organizing system.  It is self-conscious energy and matter simultaneously.

Blessed Be...

Quote from: z.monkey on October 03, 2008, 09:43:39 AM

Love is that which GOD created which everything else is composed (even Hans).

Even Hans ?

Are you  sure about that?

:)

gary

Quote from: resonanceman on October 03, 2008, 01:14:19 PM
Even Hans ?
Are you  sure about that?
:)
gary

Howdy Resonanceman,

Hans may disagree himself...

Blessed Be...

Quote from: resonanceman on October 03, 2008, 08:40:08 AM
There are man things in life that  can't be understood through definitions.

Definitions are merely clarifications describing the essential qualities of something making them clear and distinct. Understanding means that you have a clear and distinct idea of what something is.

If you understood something, then you'd be able to explain something. When you can't give a strait answer, it's obvious that you don't know something, but you blindly believe it.

This is the difference between you and I. I think that all practical information can be known, but I'm willing to admit that I don't know what most of it is. Without making excuses.

Quote from: resonanceman on October 03, 2008, 08:40:08 AMThere is no contradictions in what I said.

You said that something is both infinite,ever-present, and can't be destroyed, then said that it could be taken away.

Quote from: resonanceman on October 03, 2008, 08:40:08 AMThis is not  an explanation of what  love is. This is a simple  practical  explanation  of  how to  experience  more of what love is.

In other words "I can't be wrong because I wasn't answering your question"

Quote from: resonanceman on October 03, 2008, 08:40:08 AMI  don't  try to convert anyone.

It sure sounds to me like you're trying, and failing. Like someone going to make a basket and missing, but says "yeah but I wasn't even trying, If I tried I would have made it" then what was the point in throwing the ball to begin with?

Quote from: Nihilanth on October 03, 2008, 04:52:46 PM

This is the difference between you and I. I think that all practical information can be known, but I'm willing to admit that I don't know what most of it is. Without making excuses.

The main point  that I was trying to make  was that  you can intellectually  know all there is  about love ..........but until you FEEL  love you don't have a clue  about  it.     With many things  the experience is  completely different than  just knowing about it .

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You said that something is both infinite,ever-present, and can't be destroyed, then said that it could be taken away.

Yes  love is  ever present .     It can never truly  be taken away .
But that is not the  way it looks  from this plane at this time .

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It sure sounds to me like you're trying, and failing. Like someone going to make a basket and missing, but says "yeah but I wasn't even trying, If I tried I would have made it" then what was the point in throwing the ball to begin with?

I am  very aware that   you feel that what you believe is superior to what I believe. 
In order to  convert someone  they have to think that they have a need for a change.
You don't think you   need to change .  I didn't   try to encourage  you  to  believe you need a change.
I  simply  stated my beliefs  .

I   have stated my beliefs ........you  have stated yours.
I don't know about you but I am  done   with this  conversation .

gary

Quote from: resonanceman on October 03, 2008, 05:47:44 PMThe main point  that I was trying to make  was that  you can intellectually  know all there is about love.

Again with contradicting yourself. The first thing you said to me was:

Quote from: resonanceman on October 03, 2008, 02:23:19 AMDefining  the universe  atom by atom  is  an easier task than  defining love ..... our physical universe is  big  but not  truly infinite. Love is  infinite. Love looks different  when  viewed from  different   perspectives .

Sounds to me like you said the exact opposite of your previous post.

Quote from: resonanceman on October 03, 2008, 05:47:44 PMI am  very aware that you feel that what you believe is superior to what I believe.

It's not a matter of what you believe that makes me feel superior, it's why you believe. You seem to believe things because you were told to, raised to. The things I "believe" I did so out of my own intellect, thought proscesses and desire for knowledge. That's one of the reasons I work with free energy, I'm willing to challenge beliefs. Be it scientific or spiritual.

Quote from: resonanceman on October 03, 2008, 05:47:44 PMI   have stated my beliefs ........you  have stated yours.

Technically, you stated your beliefs, I called you a hypocrite, then we went back and forth. If you hadn't been bashing the very technology you're currently using, then this conversation probably wouldn't have been. You brought it upon yourself.

Quote from: z.monkey on October 03, 2008, 09:26:14 PM
Howdy Y'all,

Grow hemp, and chiles, and tomatoes, and onions, and lots of other stuff, but mainly hemp.

Don't forget barley and hops....

Blessed Be

Says it all about you guys, doesn't it?

Hans von Lieven

Howdy Hans,

Hemp is useful for a lot of things besides getting high.  Rope, clothing, medicine, oil, and I have even heard of hemp being used to synthesize gasoline.  Also have to mention that hemp can be eaten, it is very nutritious, and is rumored to prevent cancer (see the Cancer Cure thread) http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4809.0;topicseen

Fact is, regrettably, that I haven't been able to smoke for quite a long while, so sorry Hans I'm not high, and the Galactic Federation is still coming.

Blessed Be...

Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 04, 2008, 04:48:37 AM
Says it all about you guys, doesn't it?

Hans von Lieven

says he grows some of his own produce and possibly textiles, or were you inferring one can get high from hemp? as old of a fart as you are i would think even you would not be that ignorant. would be nice though, we could just smoke up our hippy jewelry when times are tough...

Reptilian/human hybrid skeleton now on display.

More here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn27SwBegbQ

There is no such thing as a "god". If it were, none of us would be discussing it. It is okay if you are paranoid schizofrenics and believe an obscure entity is watching over your shoulders while you are having sex in the darkness of your rooms, alone and abandoned by everyone, but please keep these dellusions to yourselves.

Just as you can't accept no one really believes in that desert nonsense any more (except the mentally deranged), we (normal and intelligent people) can't accept that you keep coming at us and forcing us to believe your nightmares and paranoid dreams.

You are the proof that "god' doesn't exist because s/he is supposedly "perfect", yet you mentally deranged beings are absolute imperfections. That is a paradox. A perfect being cannot create imperfection by default. Since you exist, your "god" doesn't.

As simple as that.

Howdy Dr. Tesla,

Yeah, GOD loves you too...

Blessed Be...

And nw, back to a more constructive subject...my previous post relating to a reptilian/human hybrid skeleton on display.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn27SwBegbQ

Regards...

Cap, monkey cannot see it. He's looking up the clouds.
But I believe it.
Totally...
Monkey, there's the "god"  'ava look.

Mine was a humorous offering only...I am not here to lower anyone's profile.

We are all entitled to our own thoughts and beliefs...and to be respected when properly presenting concepts for discussion.

The world is in the sad shape its in because too few people speak their mind.

Ridicule is the preamble to the oppression of society.

Regards...

Quote from: newbie123 on September 26, 2008, 02:46:47 PM
Anyone else wish these posts would get moved to another site, or locked?

Seriously.  If anything these posts are here to scare off the more scientific people who visit this site, and attract the non-scientific folks.   These really do kill the credibility of this site, and probably scare off good posters.  So... Why not go find another forum for this stuff???

Since when does Overunity have to do with Aliens, anyway?
(please don't attempt to answer this question)

If UFO's exist... If a car can barely travel 400 miles on a tank of Petrol and a UFO can travel millions of mile on one fill-up, then Aliens have everything to do with overunity.

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 04, 2008, 06:44:57 PM
Mine was a humorous offering only...I am not here to lower anyone's profile.

We are all entitled to our own thoughts and beliefs...and to be respected when properly presenting concepts for discussion.

The world is in the sad shape its in because too few people speak their mind.

Ridicule is the preamble to the oppression of society.

Regards...

Now you are disapointing me, talking like monkey. Ridicule is only opressive if you are ridiculing an intelligent person who speaks his/her sensible opinion on matters that are important to an individual, a group of people or a socio-economic-politic situation. If you react against the nonsense, that is not ridiculing. That is speaking the truth. You are obviously to young to understand the difference. When you grow up a bit you will, not to worry.

Speaking about aliens and how they think, live etc, is schizofrenia. And claiming they are about to land is what, rightly, gets you institutionalised. It is detrimental to the rest of the society to have retards be able to publicly speak their mind and even participate in public/politic life. Just look at Forrest Gumpo boy. Need I say more? And that mentally deranged fuck is sitting on top of that red little button that will do away with your "sympathy" towards the retarded schizofrenics" if he hits it.

Get my drift?

Ok, hopefully you have the concept of mental illness and ridicule safely separated now. Monkey is ridiculing himself enough already. I am simply asking him to stop doing this in public because his schizofrenia is imposing on the rights of the rest of us who do not share the madness and as such aren't capable of talking to the "aliens".

So, my is the voice of reason in the noise of mental disorder that seems to prevail in forums like this one. And it has nothing to do with "opression". I have the right to voice my opinion against the nonsense. And nonsense is everything we force the others to accept/believe without the evidence or proof that demonstrates we are telling the truth.

Should pink octopuses from Pleiades land on any day before the New Year, I will be the first to throw the flowers at them, but until then, monkeys belong to the jungle.

I see 3 items on your learning curve horizon...

1. Using negative labels in a debate is an indicator of a weak position.

2. Z knows a lot more technical knowledge than you or I together.

3,  I am probably old enough to be your father [Luke]...may the farce be with ewe. :)

I have been told I do not look or sound my age tho.

Some free advice from an old/young guy...you are not going to gain much respect here if you continue disrespecting people because he do not think as you do.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 05, 2008, 07:08:09 AM
you are not going to gain much respect here if you continue disrespecting people because he do not think as you do.

I second that.

@ Dr Tesla

You should know by now that the voice of reason is an unwelcome guest in a lunatic asylum.

Sorry, I forgot to use the politically correct version .... in an institution filled with special people.....

Hans von Lieven

okey

video for all must see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxLxYi-3HF8

something just died here...

Howdy Y'all

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1751401/pleiadian_show_of_strength_ufo_shoots_down_nwo_missle/

Blessed Be...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 05, 2008, 07:08:09 AM
I see 3 items on your learning curve horizon...

1. Using negative labels in a debate is an indicator of a weak position.

2. Z knows a lot more technical knowledge than you or I together.

3,  I am probably old enough to be your father [Luke]...may the farce be with ewe. :)

I have been told I do not look or sound my age tho.

Some free advice from an old/young guy...you are not going to gain much respect here if you continue disrespecting people because he do not think as you do.

Regards...
[/quote

Did you just label me as an ignorant?
That is what is is known as hypocrisy.
And where on earth (sorry, Andromeda) did you come up with a conclusion that I am a school dropout like you?
That is what is known as ignorance and arrogance.
Throwing judgements on people you know nothing about.

Anticipating your childlish "you do the same" reaction: No, it's not the same. I am not judging monkey on things I do not know abouth him/her. His/her posts are those of a schizofrenic. As soon as you get in contact with the people through your "mind" or they are talking to you all the time, even chasing you around, you are schizofrenic. The real Dr. Nikola tesla turned into one at the end of his life. He claimed he was in contact with the aliens.Yet, when he died, not a single one came to his funeral as Dr. Tesla was hoping. Come the 14th you'll see.

You are judging my knowledge and education, which you cannot possibly judge from a handful of comments. Since when you are the person to label others and at the same time deny that to others? Who gave you that advantageus right? And how come you know so much about my knowledge? Are you following me with your antennas around?

There are posts with quite explicit language directed at monkeys in this forum, even in this very thread, but you say nothing about these, or to these posters?

Get together and employ your brain more before you comment. I did not label anyone, not even monkey, although he certainly, just like other "aliens are landing tomorrow" deserve. This forum is called OVERUNITY, which means the theme is OVERUNITY. Not UFOS or ALIENS.

Get my drift now, kid? Or do I have to listen to more of your ignorant arrogance about my personal shortfalls? Like short fuse for "open", "understanding" and "humorous" people who have no "intention to label" anyone. Like you, for example.

Yours trully,

Diego Valdez
originally from Madrid
and if you believe that monkey's cronnies are coming ( careful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you pre-judgemental... I am NOT saying that you actually do believe it. Learn how to make the difference between hypotetic and exact), you should believe that too. Madrid is a lot closer than Aldebaran. Or was it Sirius?

Entiendes, nino? Y no me hagas tratar de convencerte en esto tambien, si? No va a ocurir.

"Did you just label me as an ignorant?
That is what is is known as hypocrisy.
And where on earth (sorry, Andromeda) did you come up with a conclusion that I am a school dropout like you?
That is what is known as ignorance and arrogance.
Throwing judgements on people you know nothing about. "


Man o man...that was all I read of your post.

What ever is going on in your head has no connection with reality.

Do you think everyone has missed your insults and geberal negativity on here?

Someone referred to you as trash on another thread...are you not getting the message...or are you just another troll seeking time and attention?

Nevertheless, you will have no more of mine.

Adios

Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 04, 2008, 11:26:25 AM
There is no such thing as a "god". If it were, none of us would be discussing it. It is okay if you are paranoid schizofrenics and believe an obscure entity is watching over your shoulders while you are having  in the darkness of your rooms, alone and abandoned by everyone, but please keep these dellusions to yourselves.  

Just as you can't accept no one really believes in that desert nonsense any more (except the mentally deranged), we (normal and intelligent people) can't accept that you keep coming at us and forcing us to believe your  nightmares and paranoid dreams.

You are the proof that "god' doesn't exist because s/he is supposedly "perfect", yet you mentally deranged beings are absolute imperfections. That is a paradox. A perfect being cannot create imperfection by default. Since you exist, your "god" doesn't.

As simple as that.

Quote from: Dr. Tesla on October 04, 2008, 10:12:57 PM
Now you are disapointing me, talking like monkey. Ridicule is only opressive if you are ridiculing an intelligent person who speaks his/her sensible opinion on matters that are important to an individual, a group of people or a socio-economic-politic situation. If you react against the nonsense, that is not ridiculing. That is speaking the truth. You are obviously to young to understand the difference. When you grow up a bit you will, not to worry.

Speaking about aliens and how they think, live etc, is schizofrenia. And claiming they are about to land is what, rightly, gets you institutionalised. It is detrimental to the rest of the society to have retards be able to publicly speak their mind and even participate in public/politic life. Just look at Forrest Gumpo boy. Need I say more? And that mentally deranged fuck is sitting on top of that red little button that will do away with your "sympathy" towards the retarded schizofrenics" if he hits it.

Get my drift?

Ok, hopefully you have the concept of mental illness and ridicule safely separated now. Monkey is ridiculing himself enough already.  I am simply asking him to stop doing this in public because his schizofrenia is imposing on the rights of the rest of us who do not share the madness and as such aren't capable of talking to the "aliens".

So, my is the voice of reason in the noise of mental disorder  that seems to prevail in forums like this one. And it has nothing to do with "opression". I have the right to voice my opinion against the nonsense.   And nonsense is everything we force the others to accept/believe without the evidence or proof that demonstrates we are telling the truth.

Should pink octopuses from Pleiades land on any day before the New Year, I will be the first to throw the flowers at them, but until then, monkeys belong to the jungle.

You were talking about hypocrisy????   You have the right to post and so does he... You also have the right to ignore the BS and leave, You could exercise that right...assuming you're mature enough to conduct yourself like the adult you claim to be....

Can you wrap your obviously superior mind around that one? 

@Hans and all others projecting vitriol into this thread:

With all due respect,

You assert that there is 0% probability of an alien visitation happening, this is just as delusional and illogical as asserting that there is a 100% probability.

The mathematical truth of the matter is that the probability is greater than 0% and less than 100%.

With regard to this subject the only difference between every poster is that everyone has a different probability in mind.

Just because the outcome has a binary result does not mean binary probability function, but because the outcome has a binary result it is a subject that is bound to polarise peoples opinions on the matter.

Further, everything is relative, there are people in the world that would think anyone toying with mechanical free energy devices (gravity wheels, bessler etc.) were perfectly crazy and deluded.  I myself do not think that, I think that it is a perfectly reasonable pursuit.

Regards, Fraser.

Where do you people come up with this stuff!?
Heres your source for the October 14th prediction http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SFyK2N4RG_o&feature=related
Sorry to shatter you conspiracy dreams, what we have here is an imaginative book writer with not so subtle advertising for her book, sheesh!

I'm not really into the disagreement  you gentlemen are having but after watching the ufo/missle footage it seems to me like someone is playing around with a video editing program. In no way did that look real to me. Just my opinion.

Quote from: radicalzero on October 06, 2008, 07:45:56 AM
I'm not really into the disagreement  you gentlemen are having but after watching the ufo/missle footage it seems to me like someone is playing around with a video editing program. In no way did that look real to me. Just my opinion.

it was an animation to show how it had looked - the real footage was 'taken'
i saw the same videofootage somewhere else with a title 'animation' on it

   Just relax, ist only 8 days away and then we know.  ;)

thaelin

Quote from: z.monkey on October 05, 2008, 06:58:11 PM
Howdy Y'all

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1751401/pleiadian_show_of_strength_ufo_shoots_down_nwo_missle/

Blessed Be...

I understand they made a rule..

No weapons in space. NASA did not send a dummy war head otherwise they would have let it be..

Quote from: RunningBare on October 06, 2008, 07:31:30 AM
Where do you people come up with this stuff!?
Heres your source for the October 14th prediction http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SFyK2N4RG_o&feature=related
Sorry to shatter you conspiracy dreams, what we have here is an imaginative book writer with not so subtle advertising for her book, sheesh!

RunningBare thanks for the link I really didn't want to actualy expend much energy in finding more info on this. I think she might have herself covered with this video lets see "an enormus craft of light and energy"? I think I saw that this mornning I'v always thought of it as the Sun but I could be wrong? I for one hope this thing keeps comming long after the 14th like it has for eons we all love a good tan

Quote from: Pink Floyd on October 06, 2008, 06:49:52 AM
You were talking about hypocrisy????   You have the right to post and so does he... You also have the right to ignore the BS and leave, You could exercise that right...assuming you're mature enough to conduct yourself like the adult you claim to be....

Can you wrap your obviously superior mind around that one? 

Thanks for the lesson. So eye opening. Obviously you were to lazy to read all posts from the beginning. It is silly to take high moral grounds on something one  (you) knows nothing about.

And be so kind to provide the link to the "other" thread. Since you have only joined recently and haven't spend much time at all in forums, and I comment very little in general, I believe you talk shit, unless you can prove it. You are commentig just for the sake of it, with no substance whatsoever.

Except here, nowhere else did I post and seen negative reaction. But here those who disliked what I say do not faze me a bit. Those talking up "aliens" and a ship 3600 KILOMETRES big need their brains checked. If they think I am nuts, I am in great shape.

If you can't, you better go somewhere else to play smart and mature and morally righteous.

Hans von Lieven:

Didn't you hear that men are from Mars and women from Venus?

LOL :D ;)

Afterthought:  To the geographer, everything is worth investigating.  Even religion and fables or  bizarre stories show insight to cultural development, actions, reactions, and conflicts of:   Man to man, man to society, man to environment, etc., etc.  But not everyone is open minded enough to enjoy such a discussion regardless of personal bias.  We're all just different, that's all. 

Interesting read:  http://www.presidentialufo.com/jimmy.htm  This came up on the news awhile ago too. 

I was right since the beginning...

Can't wait for all these "ufos are here!" lunatics to post something.

They must be busy "channelling" more bullshit from their inner masters...Suddenly "we" are not "ready" for "eternal love" from above and they will be so disturbed, they will not be able to land/arrive/whatever with their 3600 KILOMETRES ship...

let it be known to the world, that i like chocolate bars.


anyway. adama said that he would post an update regarding october 14th, on friday the 17th.

http://www.galacticaffairs.com/gfolforum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14


someone somewhere said that the aliens changed their mind at the last moment.
but it is more likely that the illuminati threatened extra hard to blow up the planet, if there was a flyover.


the illuminati is extremely despirate.
they know that they face powerlessness and assassination.
so they are more than willing to destroy the planet, if it means staying in power.

Whether 'they' came/come or not, it was encouraging to see that there are so many out there that realize we need a change.

Maybe now we can get down to it...time to start constructing the scaffolding...I'm pretty handy with a hammer, and kept up my rope tying skills from my yooth....and if needed, will make self available for public service. :)

Regards...

   Lets all just go back to the barter system and screw the banks and their phony money.  ;D

thaelin

Yeah...forget about the magic beans Jack...take the cow to market instead.

Regards...

I just would like to ask..How can this thread help in OU discovery?

piece..