Quote from: Ian Koglin on December 21, 2012, 03:16:19 AM
For those who only think they know what ohms law is

here is a refresher in OHM's Law

Ohms law  Is an inverse proportional law Look here  with regard inverse proportionality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportionality_(mathematics)
The concept of inverse proportionality can be contrasted against direct proportionality. Consider two variables said to be "inversely proportional" to each other. If all other variables are held constant, the magnitude or absolute value of one inversely proportional variable will decrease if the other variable increases, while their product (the constant of proportionality k) is always the same.
Ohms Law states that Power = Volts x Amps
Examples
Ohms law says  Power =Volts x Amps   

Therefore

720P =240v x 3A   and  720P = 120v x 6A  and 720P = 60v  x 12A   
Not
720P= 50v x 12A
or
720P =10v x 3A

PLease Moderators ban me from this list I do not want to even look at list again as too many people do not know what they are saying
or care to know what they are saying is correct and therefore say others are just like them

Good Bye

Ian,

You seem upset.  Not at all MY intention.

Perhaps I missed something in my read of that thread.

Can you point me to even one set of proper measurements that indicated any improvement in the efficiency of the modified motors?

PW

@Ian Koglin:

Is there some point in my video that you would like to dispute? 

What about V=IR? That is a DIRECT relationship, not an inverse one, and is one of several ways of stating Ohm's Law. If you hold resistance constant, then raise voltage, the current goes up, in direct proportion, not inverse. Your parroting of the "refresher" from Wiki in your post only reveals that you don't understand it.

QuoteIf you lower the voltage,  amps will go up if there is a source to draw from, to give same 12 watts.

Do you agree with this statement? Or not? UFOPolitics did.

Perhaps you can tell me just how to increase the current....without raising the voltage or lowering the resistance.

 Post Script

@Mile high
You just like you are doing here you was causing so mutch trouble not interested in what goes on anly trying to cause discord and that is why in UFOs Threads you were expelled not permitted to post there any more

I did not appreciate you sending me a private Email asking me to post a long document on UFO's thread I did not even read it I marked it as Spam

I just forgot to include this in my previous post

QuoteExamples
Ohms law says  Power =Volts x Amps   

Therefore

720P =240v x 3A   and  720P = 120v x 6A  and 720P = 60v  x 12A   
Not
720P= 50v x 12A
or
720P =10v x 3A

PLease Moderators ban me from this list I do not want to even look at list again as too many people do not know what they are saying
or care to know what they are saying is correct and therefore say others are just like them

You seem to think that a 20 watt lightbulb will always draw 20 watts, no matter what. It automatically adjusts.... something.... so that whenever you supply any power to it, it pulls 20 watts. Right?

Come on, Ian, think for a moment. You supply a load with VOLTAGE. The RESISTANCE of the load determines how much CURRENT will flow at that supplied VOLTAGE. Once the current is flowing you measure the supplied VOLTAGE and CURRENT..... and then you have numbers that tell you the POWER in WATTS that you are dissipating. The WATTS number isn't the constant value, it isn't what you are supplying.... it is determined by the load's resistance and the current being pushed through it by the supplied VOLTAGE. If your source isn't powerful enough, then the voltage sags or even disappears, because it can't supply the current demanded by the load's low resistance.

So if you have a resistive load that draws 3 amps at a supplied voltage of 240 Volts, that is 720 Watts of power, you got that much right.

Now, in contrast to your straw men above.... what happens if YOU LOWER THE VOLTAGE to that same load? Does the current rise somehow to maintain 720 Watts?

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 21, 2012, 03:43:17 AM
@Ian Koglin:

Is there some point in my video that you would like to dispute? 

What about V=IR? That is a DIRECT relationship, not an inverse one, and is one of several ways of stating Ohm's Law. If you hold resistance constant, then raise voltage, the current goes up, in direct proportion, not inverse. Your parroting of the "refresher" from Wiki in your post only reveals that you don't understand it.

Do you agree with this statement? Or not? UFOPolitics did.

Perhaps you can tell me just how to increase the current....without raising the voltage or lowering the resistance.

I am not disputing Ohm's law neither was UFO There is as you say a  DIRECT relationship between I and V and R
it just that what UFO said it is an Inverse proportional relationship

UFO said Ohms law is an inverse proportional and this what those disputing are disputing

Why can't you people even read  and understand V=IR   If you only change either I or R then the v has to change for V to be constant
both the I and the R have to change this is what inverse proportional is
I am only a simple Joiner and even I have learned that

This is the reason I asked the Moderators to ban me I just cannot reason with people that connot even understand what they read and jump in without putting thier brain into gear

I really an sorry for the way I have expressed my self here this argument is trivial and usless because of the ones here that are not humble enough to think they can be taught something they do not even check things to see what is correct

Please moderators ban me