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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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RMatt

Y'all might be ALOT smarter than me, I've heard alot of good stuff around here, but as usual, you hear some bullie types, you hear some jokes, and you hear some truth. It works better if there is alot of truth, some jokes and NO bullies. IMHO. WE need to help everyone to help ourselves.
True or not? ;D

PS: Please remember that not all of us have a Doctorits Degree or what ever the GOV says is required to do or understand this stuff, we like to do it for fun and to help others, EXCEPT FOR THE ONES THAT ARE ONLY!!!! AFTER  PROFIT
!!! ANY AND ALL POLICTICALS!!

Doug1

You have to go back to the basics often to keep your thoughts aligned with certain basic rules. http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/electromagnetism/magnetism.html
The device is magnetic without the use of a driving force such as a engine or other brute force mechanism to turn a stationary magnetic field (rotor) inside of a stator.
The explanation of what makes a magnet stronger and how does a lever and leverage function to do work should not have to be defined to people who have the capacity to use a computer. 
  On the other hand. maybe what makes a magnet stronger is missleading or not entirely complete as it should be. Number of turns of a coil N seams to be often locked up into some notion that the turns have to be from a single conductor. A long single conductor leads to higher Ir resistance and losses from heating. no where in any definition does it state turns or loops have to come from a single conductor. Resistance is measure of the length of a conductor/s, number of turns is not always dependant on a single length of conductor. The basic purpose of dividing cores into thin plates to reduce eddy currents into smaller discrete portions is a form of leveraging forces. No one ever said you cant apply the same thing to your coils to make a stronger magnet from a lesser power source. Even a POS trafo is a leverage, works exactly the same way even from the point of view of isolation.
There is a lot of stuff out there easily found but even more easily over looked. Look hard enough you might even figure out your coils need a perticular angle on a core to get the most out of them.


forest

Quote from: Doug1 on December 07, 2013, 07:38:42 AM
You have to go back to the basics often to keep your thoughts aligned with certain basic rules. http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/electromagnetism/magnetism.html
The device is magnetic without the use of a driving force such as a engine or other brute force mechanism to turn a stationary magnetic field (rotor) inside of a stator.
The explanation of what makes a magnet stronger and how does a lever and leverage function to do work should not have to be defined to people who have the capacity to use a computer. 
  On the other hand. maybe what makes a magnet stronger is missleading or not entirely complete as it should be. Number of turns of a coil N seams to be often locked up into some notion that the turns have to be from a single conductor. A long single conductor leads to higher Ir resistance and losses from heating. no where in any definition does it state turns or loops have to come from a single conductor. Resistance is measure of the length of a conductor/s, number of turns is not always dependant on a single length of conductor. The basic purpose of dividing cores into thin plates to reduce eddy currents into smaller discrete portions is a form of leveraging forces. No one ever said you cant apply the same thing to your coils to make a stronger magnet from a lesser power source. Even a POS trafo is a leverage, works exactly the same way even from the point of view of isolation.
There is a lot of stuff out there easily found but even more easily over looked. Look hard enough you might even figure out your coils need a perticular angle on a core to get the most out of them.


Ah Doug1, if I could have Litz wire..... check the same turns coil inductance please somebody can do video ?

Doug1

Litz wire is too expensive. Rough off the hip backwards estimate. 10,000 watts 120 volts AC is 84 amps roughly. Half the volts to be dual dc opposing magnets 60 volt dc, even to take that to a set of 5 being 12 volts each magnet they would have to handle continuous with out over heating at the maximum time the maximum load was expected to run. 12 volts 84 amps 60 percent duty cycle per inducer magnet.
  I can bundle my own and use welding cable specs to cross ref. the ampacity rating for the stranded bundle under constant load. There are formulas to figure out the magnet core specs. Im no math wiz but I will suffer through it. Old texts as I remember used to recommend keeping the lines of flux down to 7000 per cm squared. Using two independent magnets opposing each other the induced is going to encounter a potential difference of magnetic change equal to 14000 lines per cm if it were linear from a single magnets field alternating. The number of inducers can be added to or subtracted as needed to stay below the point of generating waste heat. The return to the original, while Mr figurara does not explain how to use batteries and alternating currents in combination to behave as diodes and amplifiers we can always to fall back old Mr faith full for some detailed explanations and drawings on how to. That would be How to get dc currents from ac currents with out rectifiers or commutators or diodes or tubes. If components fit then there you go. Grab your bucket of flowers and storm that machine gun nest.

Schiko

¿Vamos a tener un dispositivo de auto-ejecución hasta navidad???????????
Después de tantas teorías y tantas discusiones sería un gran regalo de Navidad, todos están de acuerdo ...

Estoy preguntando, no afirmando ok.

Feliz Navidad.

Are we going to have a self-run device until Christmas???????????
After so many theories and so many discussions, it would be a great Christmas gift, all agree...

I'm asking, not saying ok.

Merry Christmas.