Get your pop corn ready for the Clem world series event when the water in boiling oil boys meet the ambient harvesting venturi dudes. It should be quite a contest.
I am particularly interested in where the energy comes from to heat the oil.

aussiebattler

QuoteGet your pop corn ready for the Clem world series event when the water in boiling oil boys meet the ambient harvesting venturi dudes. It should be quite a contest.
I am particularly interested in where the energy comes from to heat the oil.

The water in oil idea seems far fetched at first but there could be something to it...

1)A hot oil system on cooling down could pull humid air into the system which then condenses as water. It fits the profile because there must be an anomaly not commonly found in most other systems. The effect or process must be different and unknown to a majority of people.

2)The energy required to produce a phase change in water is 2257KJ/KG. However many who don't understand energy tend to think all the heat must be added to the system which is false. A heat pump does not "produce" all the heat energy within the system it "moves" a majority of it. Thus what we may be looking for is an efficient means to recycle or transform the heat energy within the system using the least amount of work.

3)Connect the dots. Viktor Schauberger often used a mixture of air and water however he did claim other materials could work as well. Clem could have stumbled onto a process which uses steam and oil versus air and water. Schauberger also claimed his device could remove heat or produce an excess of it within parts of the system.

AC

Quote from: aussiebattler on April 19, 2023, 01:00:33 PM
I am particularly interested in where the energy comes from to heat the oil.

That is provided by compression ( I believe Tom did reference a 7 stage pump ( from Clem)


So now I understand your ...apprehension with this particular theory...
I always assumed it was self evident..
My apologies

Quote from: aussiebattler on April 17, 2023, 01:51:52 AM
Yes Well we have only had  50 yrs to do so.

Have you had any luck in this 50 years?

place a mass on a string and tie it to a force scale


Now: create 2 things:


First a venturi suction junction


Second a Schauberger vortex inverse spatial force.


Now using the force scale, allow the mass to be sucked into the force.
Compare the two, and tell me which one is closer to Clem's results