Bessler's En Principia

[johnny874]

   @All,
Will buy the wood tomorrow. Just won't like working with a Dremel rotary tool.
What is interesting, to make the hub, I will need to use my Dremel rotary tool. It's
something that my router woudl be difficult to work with.
In a way, it will be a some what spiritual/meditative thing. Have plenty of time so it
will give me something to do. The build itself is something only myself would probably
find interesting. I mean really (nothing personal), but who watches Rough Cut, Wood Smith
Shop or Wood Wright shop ? Watching people who have experience helps a great deal.
It has taken me a lot of time to realize a good way I can go about it. I'll be building a
basic 8 weighted wheel that will make 8 knocking sounds per revolution. A description
that is well known by fans of Bessler.
I guess won't be much to say until i get it built and I'll be taking my time in doing so.

[johnny874]

 @all,
have been wondering the cost ov a 30 inch wheel. the main hold up on this is I will need to rent a small storage unit where I can rout parts. with something like this, I would want everything to ne square when I rput radii. better fit would make it structurally stronger.

[johnny874]

    @All,
  The first picture is of a test build I did about 5 years ago. I built it so I could test for acceleration
and conservation of momentum. it was helpful but what surprised me the most was how quickly
the wheel stopped when the over balance weight went to move underneath the axle, needless to say, it was
surprisingly quick.
And the second picture is a modified Mt 37 where 2 levers drop lifting weights at the top and bottom of the wheel.
It is by doing such builds that helped me to realize that water could provide more over balance and at a much
lower cost energy wise. This is important if the wheel is to do work such as what has been said about Bessler's.
I have found that in time, I can get my idea's turned into something. I like building but I do not like someone
trying to take over my work when they are not willing to do any work themselves. As AB Hammer always said,
there are 10,000 ways to use a lever. And since i do not wish to try that many ways, I need to take the time needed
to consider the best 3 or 4 ways and maybe try those. Since this is all custom work, it will sometimes take repeated efforts
to get something done. That is all a part of developing an idea.
                     
                                                                                                                                    Johnny

[johnny874]

   @All,
It's interesting how pirate88719 can post that I don't build anything. I have shown some of my work but have no need to show all of it. Just as with the basic pump I built, it is necessary to start somewhere to understand what Bessler knew about pumping water.
I do believe it is the special weight he refers to in his drawing Maschinen Tractae 20 when he said he used a special weight. It will take time to understand how to build an efficient pump that can be used in a wheel. it's not something as simple as Heron's Fountain where all you do is calculate to pressure heads using PiR^2*H = Vol. as Heron showed the pressure head with more volume will do more work. This is because volume equals mass. In the metric system, 1 liter equals 1,000 cubic centimenters. And with the American or SAE system of measurement, 16 oz.s of water equals about 28.3 cubic inches.
Working with pumps as I believe Bessler did, it is important to know this as it allows me to know the diameter of the tube and the width of the wheel if the tube is fully expanded.
With developing a pump that uses principles that Bessler mentioned and showed in his drawings does take time. This would be the only way to demonstrate that Bessler was intelligent enough and di have the understanding to have built his wheel.
And myself, I see no reason why a moderator would allow me to be flamed while doing research at my expense on an obscure part of German History. It really shows no respect for this forum or the subject content being discussed in this forum. It is like they say about climbing Mount Everest, the hike up it starts with but a single step.

                                                                                                   Jim

>> And FYI, if the flow of water is to be maintained in one direction, it needs to be able to over flow the loop seal (a loop seal prevents air from escaping the chamber that water is flowing into), something they teach in school if you ever go for engineering.  <<
With a Bessler type system, the pump itself would create a seal.

[Pirate88179]

Captain Oblivious:  (Jim)

Wow, you made some door stops.  You said you have 5 working overunity devices that will run forever.  Where are they?  How much OU do these devices above make?  Where is your perpetual Heron's Fountain that you said was so easy to make?  Where is Bessler's wheel that you said you were the only person in the world that understood how to make one?  Oh, so you DON"T have any WORKING devices then?  More lies I guess.

Stop mentioning my name in your many topics and just leave me alone.  Also, stop telling lies.

Bill