Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[hanon]

you might even figure out your coils need a particular angle on a core to get the most out of them.

Hi Doug,

I am intriged with this sentence. I could have expected a particular shape to improve the output, but not a particular angle in the coil. Could you define your proposal? I don't get to understand it.

Another question: who is Mr. faith?

Regards

[Doug1]

Tesla is old faithful,there is lot I dont care for about him but he has taken the time and expense to leave behind a great deal of patents to use for educational purposes.
  The angle of wind is just that. The winding as a coil around a core. Sometimes you see coils wound layer after layer with a single conductor back and forth. That method may increase dilectric capacitance inbetween layers but it has to cancel out some of the inductive action. A coil with a slight slant where the winds when considered to be a advancing path around an object partially fall behind on any given portion of the path. At no point would going backwards help to advance anything.Layers of winds should be single layers with terminations at the ends of the start and stop length along the core or bobbin tied together at the ends of each layer. There is nothing  in stone that says each layer has to be of the same wire diameter. Fields weaken as the get further away. Take every advantage. If your winding is around a 1 inch thick trafo "I" section and the coil is 1 inch thick and 1 long the field around the core piece is not going to be rectangular shape that follows the shape of the core. It becomes a shape more like a foot ball.Fewer lines of force or lines that are more spread out in the middle. There will be less induction possible for a given wire size at the places where the lines of force are spread out more. Not that you would intercept it there. If you inclined to try to keep the lines of force more straight and less bowed out in the middle you need to think about why they bowed out in the first place. The windings generating a magnetic field sit over the core. The direction of spin around the windings is in one direction close to the core on the inside of the winding. It's the opposite on the outside of the winding. As the flux created in the core has to complete its path it has to jump over the flux on the outside of the winding which is now going the opposite direction. If the core is hour glass shaped the windings are not only shorter in wire length for the same number of turns the flux is kept in a smaller space and will less effect nearby coils.Less wire ,less core material wasted. Wider pole faces will spread out the number of lines per cm squared and produce less heating on the pole faces if your operating above a excessive level of saturation.In a non moving design, one that does not rotate the rotor piece the heating if it were to happen would be evenly distributed unlike one that does rotate. In a revolving system the heat produced is on the leading or lagging edge of the pole face depending on different factors caused by leading or lagging loads.
  It would be better to just not have a lot of heat develop in the first place but it may not be possible to completely stop that from happening.

  Will ya have a working model before Christmas? I wouldn't bet a plumb nickle on that.Besides time is not important. Rushing causes misstakes that is why I have spent weeks unwinding with greatest care 25lbs of wire from a core I miss calculated. I could go the route of a mini model but i dont trust that everything will work correctly when scaling up. It become far too complicated to think of everything that has to be considered when scaling up. To truly be able to scale down you have to have a way to scale down the size of the magnetic domains in the core material not just use smaller pieces of normal material that reduce the number of domains. Since it will in the end have to be baked to keep the torq on the windings at bay and the volume of materials are not cheap. The time put in if spare time is used which would otherwise be wasted on things that are pointless is instead used to build this.Then time is what is less important. Im in no hurry to see how many mistakes can be made.

[hanon]

Hi all,

There is a spanish patent about a overunity generator filed in 1955 by David Hogan and carlos Ludovik Jakovlewich (patent ES225316) which is curiously very very similar to the Figuera patent No. 303376 , the one with the rotary drum coil.  In this patent the coil is stationary and the magnets are mounted over some rotating discs.

I have translated the claims of this patent:


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CLAIMS SPANISH PATENT ES225316

The authors claim in this patent:

1) New electric generator characterized by the existence of series of discs, variable in number and in dimension, susceptible to host "magnets".

2) New electric generator according to claim 1 characterized in that the series of discs are mounted on a shaft in parallel arrangement ; the shaft rests on its sides over bearings. This arrangement of supporting bearings allow its intermediate extension if required.

3 ) New electric generator according to claims 1 and 2,wherein the " magnets " located in the discs must be placed parallely on the shaft. These discs, spaced, will allow that the poles of the magnets ( magnetos) of each disk are facing " north-south " (opposition of poles).

4) New electric generator according to claims 1 to 3, characterized in that between the discs (series of two) a stationary or fixed screen or sieve (grids) of copper wire or any electroconductive material glazed and covered with insulation is placed.

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In the description it is clearly stated that the authors are describing an overunity generator where a part of the energy produced could be used to power the machine and the rest could be used externally for other uses.

Any comments?

[hanon]

Hi all,

This is how I think that this patent may work fine. This is a modification to solve the problem of cancelling the opposite effect in each side of the coil in the original drawing (IMO). The winding could be a type of classical drum winding which crosses the center point diametrically and surround two discs inside (see photo below).

In my oppinion the key is :

      1. A coil perpendicular to the inducer magnetic field. With this configuration the induced magnetic field will not oppose to the inducer field. There won´t be any opposing field against the magnets.

      2. Static wires and moving magnets. With this configuration the wires, being static, will not suffer any dragging force. The dragging force just appears in the wires -where the current is flowing. If the wires are the static part then this problem is skipped, IMO. (The dragging force is calculated as the Lorentz force, F=Intensity•Length•B , and this force just appears in systems with electrical charges in movement. If  we place the current into an static part, then -I think- we won´t have this dragging force which usually opposes the movement)

Therefore there won´t be any opposing field neither any dragging force in the wires.

Regards

[hanon]

This geneator if off-topic in this thread. The objetive was to compare it with the Figuera patent No. 30376 with the rotary winding, which share some features with this device

http://www.alpoma.com/figuera/figuera_30376.pdf