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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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picowatt

Quote from: EMJunkie on June 25, 2015, 06:13:18 AM
PW, there is a very good reason for this issue you have.

I can only quote from Tinman:

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

It is not an "issue".

I believe Tinman was being overly gracious and outright inaccurate when he
inferred any relationship between his work and your "partnered coils"

I see little in common with Tinman shorting a coil when and where he does in
a generator's cyclical period and the "partnered coil" work you have presented.

As you have done in the past, you seem to be anxious to hang your wagon on any work
other than your own to somehow validate what you have presented.

Perhaps you should do as Tinman has done with his work and present some credible
results of your own proving your partnered coils produce "free energy" as you claim. 

PW

hoptoad

Quote from: EMJunkie on June 25, 2015, 05:47:28 AM
@Hoptoad,

You're not wrong, however, this depends weather you believe this is a base Resistor, or a Pull Down Resistor as there is only one in the entire circuit?

Adding a resistor to the Coil in question, is not of any benefit where it currently is for Output Power.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


Without knowing the whole circuit, it's all conjecture at this point. However, based on the circuit provided (which is all we have) I would
agree if I thought the only way the shorted coil could benefit the total output is via it's direct electrical (wire) coupling with the main generator coil.


However, that would overlook the less obvious but more direct benefit conveyed by pure induction from coil to coil via the shared core.


When looking at schematics of motors its important to remember we are dealing with electrical and magnetic interactions. Schematics show the electric pathways well enough, but often fail to show or convey (very well) the magnetic connections in a circuit.

EMJunkie

Quote from: tinman on June 25, 2015, 06:22:24 AM
Plus the components you dont see in the basic measuring point schematic.

No they are not.Each coil is connected to the cap,but separated by the mosfet and diode.

Im not sure what your reason is,but it is true that not all universal motors will work straight up. Some may require that the coils be rewound on the stator-->as in the case of my larger universal motor.

You bet your ass i am-->for reasons i have explained.

As was clearly explained right from the start. I only posted the test results and a basic schematic for measurement points only,as MH requested that i back up my claim with evidence.I had no intention of disclosing the device and the completed schematics as a whole,but only the results shown by the device.

I have done nothing of a sort,and the only confusion here is the misunderstanding that i was here to present a complete device and schematic for others to replicate. It was only presented for measurement confirmation <-- still to come.
No it wont.


 
Only coil B is shorted.

 
Where did you get .25 ohms for resistance from? Coils A and B's resistance is 3.2 ohms. At 10.4 volts across 3 ohms is only 3,25 amp's. The IRF540 will handle a continuous drain current of 20 amp's at 100*C, and a pulsed current of 100 amps. Why will the fet not survive?.

Shorting coil B is exactly what happens. These are not partnered coil's,as they both have very different jobs.

TinMan is shorting coil B.

I think there was a mix up with the coil shorting and partnered coil situation EMJ.  What i was meaning is both situations cause a bucking magnetic field.
I think many people here also are a bit confused as to how and where the magnetic fields are on the rotor in regards to the position of the stators magnetic field. The rotors fields are actually between(close to) the two stator fields,not close to the center of each stator field<-- im talking about the motor being in standard operation mode here.

So before anyone else tries to replicate this device,lets make sure i havnt screw'd up the measurements first. Then we will go from there.
What i dont want is this being another UFOpolotics situation ,where people spend there time and money on something that dosnt work as i have claimed.

@Tinman,

Quote from: tinman on June 22, 2015, 06:48:14 AM

They also dismiss EMJ's shorted coil theory,and although he hasnt shown a working device yet,and he messed up the scope measurements,his theory is sound.


Your very interesting statement has bought about some confusion! Me, EMJ, have never entered into any "shorted coil theory" and when you verify ones "theory is sound", although appreciative, this statement has brought about a some Confusion.

So, I leave the floor to you for a while and we will see how we go.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

EMJunkie

Quote from: picowatt on June 25, 2015, 06:34:46 AM
It is not an "issue".

I believe Tinman was being overly gracious and outright inaccurate when he
inferred any relationship between his work and your "partnered coils"

I see little in common with Tinman shorting a coil when and where he does in
a generator's cyclical period and the "partnered coil" work you have presented.

As you have done in the past, you seem to be anxious to hang your wagon on any work
other than your own to somehow validate what you have presented.

Perhaps you should do as Tinman has done with his work and present some credible
results of your own proving your partnered coils produce "free energy" as you claim. 

PW


PW - Yet more Verbal Non-Sense!

Damn, you used to be Smart! What happened?

You have completely contradicted what you said only in your last post. Time to man up and get over your little issues!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

nelsonrochaa

Quote from: EMJunkie on June 25, 2015, 07:06:33 AM

PW - Yet more Verbal Non-Sense!

Damn, you used to be Smart! What happened?

You have completely contradicted what you said only in your last post. Time to man up and get over your little issues!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org



Because people are so petty .....
They are already trying to find a pretext to justify the unjustifiable.
As I said one day, all the rivers flow into the sea, by that I mean that there are different ways to achieve the same objective.
moreover it presents the circuit Tinman can be improved without moving parts such as the engine which further increase the efficiency of the circuit.
 Suddenly everyone seems to have been expert with many guesses.
just of me wanted to laugh!
I find it very good that Tinman protect their work because some people here are already sharpening their knives to take advantage and surely he knows of what I speak because unlike other people in this forum, it seems to me the few with common sense.
For the "smart" people continue to "navigate" in ignorance and give a lot of laps trying to understand something that has already been explained.
Chris the right people and worthy,  will find the correct answers if  really have interested. Just have to read and refrain from 80% of the comments of this topic the rest are just a soap opera of poor quality.
Even the most "dominant" voices go silent, going round and round lol