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Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator

Started by hartiberlin, February 04, 2016, 11:21:58 PM

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e2matrix

I do have concern about their claim of the 2500 pound magnet pull.  That would tend to take some very large very expensive magnets unless they got an extra zero in their (250 pound ?).   

lumen

While trying very hard to believe the U-Plug is real, I thought this design might fit all the requirements of operation.

With the outer ring gear stationary and the small planetary gear connected to only the copper tubing.
The center magnet is stationary and the outer magnets rotate in a circle but always face the center magnet and do not rotate with the copper tubing.

The action is generated in the tubing by rotating the tubing causing an increased push on one side while the other side causes a pull as the retained field is shifted.
The idea is that the tubing retains the field for a short time and shifts the pushing field from the center magnet to one side while the other side rotates a pulling field from the back of the outer magnet to the center magnet.

Just an idea that seems to fit the push pull wording.

forest


lumen

Quote from: forest on February 06, 2016, 03:02:10 PM
Rotating magnets is a waste of time.  :P

That's why the magnets do not rotate in this design!

It's like when you have two magnets suspended on string and attracting each other with a gap between them.
Then using flat copper, rapidly pulled from the slot, the magnets tend to follow the copper as the retained field is held in the copper and pulls on the magnets.

What are the results when the magnets are not attracting but repelling, and the copper is pulled? Are the magnets instead pushed opposite the pulling direction?

TinselKoala

Quote from: lumen on February 06, 2016, 03:16:00 PM
That's why the magnets do not rotate in this design!

It's like when you have two magnets suspended on string and attracting each other with a gap between them.
Then using flat copper, rapidly pulled from the slot, the magnets tend to follow the copper as the retained field is held in the copper and pulls on the magnets.

What are the results when the magnets are not attracting but repelling, and the copper is pulled? Are the magnets instead pushed opposite the pulling direction?

That's an interesting question. Actually what's happening is this: when you have two magnets facing in attraction, there is intense flux (lot of field lines if you like) between the facing poles of the two magnets. The copper strip is a conductor. When it moves, eddy currents are generated _around_ the field lines which are penetrating the copper at right angles to the plane of the copper. These eddy currents cause the drag between the copper and the magnets. This is basically the same as the demonstration where a magnet is dropped through a copper tube and falls slowly because of the eddy current drag. Also this principle is used in balances, like the common triple-beam balance, which typically uses an aluminum plate that moves between poles of magnets, creating a resistance that damps the motion so the balance comes to rest relatively quickly.  Eddy current braking....

Now, when you have the magnets so that the poles repel instead of attracting, the field lines conflict and spread out, like two mushrooms head to head, and it may be the case that no, or very few, field lines go through the copper at right angles if the copper is exactly centered between the "mushroom heads". So there might not be any drag at all, if the copper is right in the center between the poles. But if it is moved towards one or the other poles, then you once again have field lines penetrating the copper and on pulling the copper laterally,  eddy currents will be generated as before, dragging the magnet along with the copper.

The nice thing about eddy current braking/damping is that when there is slow or no motion, there is little or no damping. When the motion is faster, so is the damping/dragging effect. This means that it works perfectly when used to dampen the weighing balance because it adds no friction when the balance is not moving.