Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.

[acerzw]

@Erfinder

That's it......... Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you. It was right under our noses all the time.

Riddle: What happens to an ozone generator that does not want to generate ozone?
Answer: It sends the power back and asks for a refund.

I'm just floored. Thank you again.

I second that... and thanks to arma also...

[slapper]

Go innovation_station!

@Slapper
Leedskalnin, it seems was a distraction, but I think the magnetic effect he pointed out is still worthy of study, just not so relevant as Tesla... and Water/Hydrogen Splitting is an equally worthy use of time IMHO... so many ways...

Agree. I was just giving you a hard time. There was no offence intended. I was figuring that the water splitting was more achievable at the time but when you tied Leedskalnin to the TPU I couldn't resist. The outcome of all this may be applied to a more productive mothod of water splitting not to mention OU. By the way your intuition is very interesting.

And as far as the good start to the new year; EMdevices started it way back last year. You remember that cute little image he briefly displayed on this thread. Come on EMdevices don't be embarrassed. We're all showing our wares here. Stop playing peek-a-boo.

Giantkiller you are being much to kind with this thread. Let me know if you'd rather I move this.

Love to all and take care.

nap

[giantkiller]

Go innovation_station!

@Slapper
Leedskalnin, it seems was a distraction, but I think the magnetic effect he pointed out is still worthy of study, just not so relevant as Tesla... and Water/Hydrogen Splitting is an equally worthy use of time IMHO... so many ways...

Agree. I was just giving you a hard time. There was no offence intended. I was figuring that the water splitting was more achievable at the time but when you tied Leedskalnin to the TPU I couldn't resist. The outcome of all this may be applied to a more productive mothod of water splitting not to mention OU. By the way your intuition is very interesting.

And as far as the good start to the new year; EMdevices started it way back last year. You remember that cute little image he briefly displayed on this thread. Come on EMdevices don't be embarrassed. We're all showing our wares here. Stop playing peek-a-boo.

Giantkiller you are being much to kind with this thread. Let me know if you'd rather I move this.

Love to all and take care.

nap

Splitting this thread would be worthless. And I will tell you why...

Ya see that coil that IS just posted. That is a similar model to the Marco PVC coil back about 6 months ago that JDO300 and I duped. One of my parallel plans includes further testing with that. It has 2 Helmoltz coils . http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magquad.html#c2 If you put 2 diff freqs the same direction you get Heterodyning to a sum of never greater than the highest freq and this is a dipole. A vortex is possible. But if you pulse in 2 diff directions the heterodyned output freq is staggering plus you create a quadpole which hits against the center copllector. The segmented controls also give the hi impedance in each coil while the surrounding ones can pick up the concentration and decentration of power.
This can be done with 1 freq in certain combinations.
If you fire the same freq in 2 rings in opposing directions they will meet up at the opposite end. Now when they meet at 2 opposite places on the ring you will get the gyroscoping thumping. This will alow the operator to get the higher heterodyning freqs if needed.

@IS, thanks for the cohesive post. Now there are 4 of these coils. But yours has more copper mass by far.

I get more bench time this weekend.
Update:
PVC coil needs the current test. It is ready to rock and roll.
BFG gets 3 layer coils hookups. Purely mechanincal. It has to fit in a test jig for firing.
The 3 xr2206s or 3 555s are get a TIP41 driver backend to drive the new coils.
Major setup change is I have wave generators but not a DC sinewave output. This is neccesary for all the coils mentioned.
I don't have any lab gennys. I build all of my own.

--giantkiller. Its all adding up and that is why all the diversity here.

[innovation_station]

the coil i post can be configured so many diffrent ways.......


this that i speak of is in my mind  1 of the simplest ways to achieve our goal

this is how this peculiar unit works

it is a simple motor nothing more if it is a motor it  is a generator as well 

so that being said

this unit has `10 control coils or electro magnets each of 200 turns  this should have only 9 coils and should be hooked up in a 3 phase configuration  running with the grain so to speak lol  or nature as we do prefer

so the collector  in this unit is tuned to 7.5 Hz in a 4" core  now there as i see it  need not be any more harmonic relation ships for this to work

because the electro magnets are already 7.8Hz

any how  in the 3 phase there 3 caps that are charged with the ozone pattend circuit 

lol

just too simple

ist

[M@rcel]

I noticed the pictures from
568,177: apparatus for producing ozone
568,178 Method of regulating apparatus for producing currents of high frequency
a few posts back

I stumbled upon another Tesla patent:
609.250: Electrical igniter for gas-engines"
which has a comparable drawing.

Same principals as the above, but maybe easier to comprehend. In comparing this to "modern" ignition systems, I noticed that
- a high inductance coil is added
- the capacitor is part of a tank circuit instead of (nowadays) preventing a spark accross the breaker points

Further I found out that an ignition coil is much like a flyback converter
Flyback Converter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyback_converter
Ignition Coil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignition_coil

I also found this circuit to experiment with flyback transformers: http://www.angelfire.com/80s/sixmhz/flyback.html
which, at the bottom, contains two images that lead to the Rodin topic on this forum: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3529.msg67844.html#msg67844 (coincedence?)

So, a Tesla ignition circuit. Preferably driven at 50HZ (US: 60Hz) which corresponds to a car-engine at 3000rpm. This gives me a high voltage 50Hz square wave at the high-voltage ignition coil output. Can't expect much current, but we'll see.