The Tesla Project

[wattsup]

@hydrocontrol

I don't think that video is from Erfinder. If I am not mistaken, the word Erfinder means inventor and is widely used in German.

As for this thread, I was thinking of this also, to get it going again.

In my experiments, I use the @allcanadian circuit and the Erfinder circuit as a standard methods. I have done so many experiments and now it is to the point where even before testing a coil, I can already know the result and testing is just confirming. This is because I am always using these two tests as a base, before doing other methods and this gives me a standard point of comparison.

I am tired of using relays and solid states to pulse. Granted pulsing is not the same when you do it a low speed compared to high speed, but the higher speeds are only possible with SS components that just hate anything that has to do with flyback. lol Unless I find a pulsing system that is crystal based or some other materials that don't just fiz out when things start getting interesting.

So I am going to work out a system that will function at low pulses, more induction, more energy movement,  more flyback return but at a slower rate. More like a pendulum and less like a bullet. Newman does it a slow speeds. Many of Teslas patents are at slow speeds.

Anyways, I found a  nice small dc motor that was all pre-mounted on a small gear box and already had a large wheel. So I made some grooves in the wheel and put a contact on it and I can now get low speed pulses without a relay or SS hassles. So more fun is ahead.

[clone477]

@hydrocontrol

I don't think that video is from Erfinder. If I am not mistaken, the word Erfinder means inventor and is widely used in German.

As for this thread, I was thinking of this also, to get it going again.

In my experiments, I use the @allcanadian circuit and the Erfinder circuit as a standard methods. I have done so many experiments and now it is to the point where even before testing a coil, I can already know the result and testing is just confirming. This is because I am always using these two tests as a base, before doing other methods and this gives me a standard point of comparison.

I am tired of using relays and solid states to pulse. Granted pulsing is not the same when you do it a low speed compared to high speed, but the higher speeds are only possible with SS components that just hate anything that has to do with flyback. lol Unless I find a pulsing system that is crystal based or some other materials that don't just fiz out when things start getting interesting.

So I am going to work out a system that will function at low pulses, more induction, more energy movement,  more flyback return but at a slower rate. More like a pendulum and less like a bullet. Newman does it a slow speeds. Many of Teslas patents are at slow speeds.

Anyways, I found a  nice small dc motor that was all pre-mounted on a small gear box and already had a large wheel. So I made some grooves in the wheel and put a contact on it and I can now get low speed pulses without a relay or SS hassles. So more fun is ahead.

I though I would post here also...

Wattsup, its nice to see you still interested in this project.  Yesterday I spend 6 hours reading through all 9 pages to fully understand.  I am now ready to start building.  I want to get this working, and I have a Chevrolet Colorado that is converted to electric.  And it just so happens it has a series wound DC motor as the drive motor.  I want to eventually apply this to that.  Tesla never charged batteries with these circuits as far as I can tell, but he always ran motors or light or loads, ect.  I think there has to be a way to feedback that secondary capacitor discharge to feed the motor.  Have you tried a bifilar to replace the secondary and capacitor??  Talk to you later man.  Fern

[clone477]

I wanted to shine some light on this project as I havent slept much the last week, because of all the reading Ive done over the patents and the Colorado Spring Notes.  Id appriciate some feedback Erfinder or the others who were actively involved.  I have totally grasped the theory behind the operation of the ozone patents and the others that erfinder has listed for referance.  A couple important things I learned....

1.  As Erfinder has stated, The primary capacitor has to be small, he says that if we were relying on the source voltage to charge the capacitor then we would need a larger capacitor.  But since we are using the inductive collapse of the windings(and/or choking coil), a smaller and inexpensive one will work fine.

2.  He also says that choking coils may be omitted(which we know) if there is sufficent inductance in the field windings of the motor.  He continues that...."So to, the nessesity of a condenser, is avoided when the circuit itself possess sufficient capacitance to accomplish the desirded result"  He is talking about a bifilar winding which ERfinder also mention.  But I belive Tesla was referring to the primary winding and condenser, and/or the secondary winding and condenser.

3. In patent 568178, He say in order to charge and discharge the primary winding/cap MOST EFFECTIVELY, the frequency of the impressed impulses(by the speed of the motor or number of make and breaks on the controler) should have a definite related to the vibration of the circiut it self(tank circuit and impulse speed must be the same frequency or a harmonic of).  He continues..."ANY DEPARTURE FROM THIS CONDITION IN A DECRESSED OUTPUT"
He says the best way to do this is to adjust the speed of the motor.

4.  Tesla Quote..."IN ORDER TO SECURE THE GREATEST EFFIECENCY,  IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE CIRCUITS SHOULD BE APPROXIMATELY IN RESONANCE"
He continues..." MOREOVER, IN ORDER TO OBTAIN THE GREATEST OUTPUT FROM THIS MACHINE AND ITS KIND, IT IS DESIRED TO OBTAIN THE HIGHEST FREQUENCY POSSIBLE"

5.  Patent 577670, shows the same setup as the double rely system that ERfinder has shown everyone. 


Something really confuses me.  After reading the Ozone patent 100 times, I read something interesting under what he claim is the purpose of the invention....

"A device for producing ozone comprising in combination, surfaces between which an electrical discharge takes place, a transformer for producing the potential necessary for such discharge, a condenser in the primary circuit 6o of the transformer, a charging-circuit, means for charging the condenser by such circuit and discharging it through the primary of the transformer, a motor operated by the charging-circuit, and a device operated thereby 65 for maintaining a current of air between the discharge-surfaces, as set forth..."

He states that one of the purposes is to run the motor by the charging circuit??  Does this mean that the charging circuit(motor field coils) runs the motor which is obvious, or does he mean that the output from the secondary is ment to be feedback to run the motor, making it more efficient as I think ERfind also mentioned??

Lastly Id like for people to read Tesla Colorado Spring Notes where he played with regenerative circuits in Aug I believe.  Here is a link to one of the recievers....

http://www.teslasociety.com/teslarec.pdf

That is a feedback regenerative circuit, the basis of he radiant energy collector, and to me, that circuit looks identical to the ozone patent, minus the senitive device "A".  I dont know what he means by that senitive device.  Anyways to me this show that maybe we should be feeding back the bifilar secondary of the ozone circuit to somewhere in the charging circuit, maybe across the primary.  I have not been able to figure out how this would work though to increase efficency of the motor??  I know it will give a stronger output on the secondary if all is timed correctly.

ERFINDER this is where I couold use your superior knowledge.  Pleased tune in and tell me if I got anything right.  And I appreciate you bringing this patent to life for me. 

Well its getting late, Im going blind and Im sure my spelling is geting real bad.  So goodnight everyone.  Fern

[wings]

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[allcanadian]

@clone477

1.  As Erfinder has stated, The primary capacitor has to be small, he says that if we were relying on the source voltage to charge the capacitor then we would need a larger capacitor.  But since we are using the inductive collapse of the windings(and/or choking coil), a smaller and inexpensive one will work fine.

The inductive discharge potential (voltage) is a function of the resistance to the discharge, a smaller condenser will charge faster than a large one thus the resistance rises faster and a greater potential develops.

2.  He also says that choking coils may be omitted(which we know) if there is sufficent inductance in the field windings of the motor.  He continues that...."So to, the nessesity of a condenser, is avoided when the circuit itself possess sufficient capacitance to accomplish the desirded result"  He is talking about a bifilar winding which ERfinder also mention.  But I belive Tesla was referring to the primary winding and condenser, and/or the secondary winding and condenser.

What is the desired result? to charge a capacitance to a high potential
What is a capacitor? a device which stores energy in the form of a electrostatic field, the higher the potential the less surface area reqired to store a given amount of energy. A capacitor could be seen as a resilient media which when disturbed has the ability to form oscillations within itself, the properties of these oscillations effecting the circuit as a whole.

3. In patent 568178, He say in order to charge and discharge the primary winding/cap MOST EFFECTIVELY, the frequency of the impressed impulses(by the speed of the motor or number of make and breaks on the controler) should have a definite related to the vibration of the circiut it self(tank circuit and impulse speed must be the same frequency or a harmonic of).  He continues..."ANY DEPARTURE FROM THIS CONDITION IN A DECRESSED OUTPUT"
He says the best way to do this is to adjust the speed of the motor.

We can equate this with pushing a swing, there is one exact moment and only one where the applied energy impulse (the push) will be "most" effective.

4.  Tesla Quote..."IN ORDER TO SECURE THE GREATEST EFFIECENCY,  IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE CIRCUITS SHOULD BE APPROXIMATELY IN RESONANCE"
He continues..." MOREOVER, IN ORDER TO OBTAIN THE GREATEST OUTPUT FROM THIS MACHINE AND ITS KIND, IT IS DESIRED TO OBTAIN THE HIGHEST FREQUENCY POSSIBLE"

We know from the swing example why resonance is important, but why the highest frequency possible? An EE might tell you the capacitive reactance decreases with a rising frequency as the inductive reactance increases so a capacitance, whatever the capacitance may be in relation to the circuit, has a greater efficiency at higher frequencies. So here we could assume the goal is to increase the efficiency of any reactions concerning a capacitance in any form this capacitance may take, be it capacitance of any two or more conductors seperated by a distance with air inbetween them, the capacitance between any two or more conductors seperated by an insulator/dielectric of some sort or any media in which a potential difference exists between them. But why? two words---electrostatic induction.

5.  Patent 577670, shows the same setup as the double rely system that ERfinder has shown everyone.

You will find many of Teslas patents have the same theme, the question is why? I believe these patents were filed for one simple reason, to provide a record of Teslas achievements for those who are ready to understand the true nature of energy beyond the scope of what any textbook could possibly tell us. If some intellectual tells you the patents purpose is obvious, ask him why nobody can seem to duplicate it, ask him why nobody can produce results even remotely close to what Tesla claimed and demonstrated before many people of impecable character. When you understand this patent 568177, the purpose and you can replicate it you will understand many things not found in any textbook--anywhere.
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