4 Mhz Solid State Radiant Battery Charger

[DrStiffler]

Hi Koen,

There are too many variabilities to be able to give any sort of figures so I am just sticking to saying that I can increase the charge of both batteries by swapping. But because these circuits are working at HF & VHF frequencies, virtually everything will effect their performance. This is why I think Dr.S wants to make protoboards for people to simply prevent the variable of results from people making their own setups and then claim they don't work.

The similarities between Dr.S' ESEC and Bedini's RE battery chargers goes further. Dr.S is showing how he can now measure OU in a 3F capacitor in 111 seconds. Bedini always said that his RE chargers would charge a capacitor such that when discharged into a battery, it would charge the battery with more energy over time than what was required to power the charger. So I believe the next step for these wideband oscillators would be to charge a large capacitor as Dr.S has demonstrated, but then discharge it into a battery which is classic Bedini. After the battery has been charged, the energy can then be used as normal from the battery without effecting the OU operation of the oscillator circuit.

The reason why we would do this is because the very low impedance of the battery makes it a bad match for collecting the energy directly from the oscillator circuit. By charging a capacitor with the oscillator and then discharging the capacitor into the battery at specific intervals, we overcome the impedance mismatch between the oscillator and the battery and get a great deal more energy into the battery. I am working on this at the moment.

Regards,

Ossie

Some times the simplest of things are the hardest to obtain.

Getting excess energy is without doubt not simple, yet the big problem is in what and how to use it. The charge on the large storage caps is indeed fascinating,  but now what? Because the ESEC and SEC Exciters are at such a high impedance at the output, they rapidly drop from gain to unity and below very fast when anything is attached. This is the primary reason I have always insisted that instrumentation not be connected to the outputs during operation.

Now having said that, it is problematic in how to take the energy from multiple caps driven by multiple ESEC's and do something like Ossie has stated (dump into a battery) for conventional use.

I have had little success in solid state switching. To date the relay seems to be the present choice, but this is sad indeed. A ring of Exciters connected to relays and a sequencer to switch them into a battery system. Is this not high tech to low tech?

I designed the ESEC circuits in the way they are for the simple reason that they charge the cap and when charged as far as they can, the exciter shuts down (stops oscillating). This is designed in so that a current monitor can be used in the primary supply line for sensing when the cap is charged. This removed the need to connect monitor circuits across the caps. Yet problems still exist, you do not want multiple caps switched into the load at the same time, this should be simple to understand. So we need a control means to only allow one fully charged cap to dump at any one time.

Relays are fine to show the concept, but unless you are running the high gain ESEC's you use all you obtain in the control circuits.

I would welcome anyone to offer an idea on how to do this, oh, even with the relays you need very short leads or at least a two stage filter right off the cap (ferrite's). It would appear that for every problem solved a new one appears.

If anyone wants the Overunity Prize, use relays and a 4 watt ESEC, Stephen will have to go to the bank and get you the funds.

Dr.S.

[Koen1]

Ok, thanks for the feedback guys

Guess I'll just have to study the work you have been doing some more

Let's see what comes from the "Young effect" thread eh?

[nievesoliveras]

@drstiffler

If anyone wants the Overunity Prize, use relays and a 4 watt ESEC, Stephen will have to go to the bank and get you the funds.

Dr.S.

I am not interested on the prize, but I am really interested on using a battery as small as 1.5volts or as big as a 9volt to move a small motor, and at the same time feed some charge to the running battery.
My question is: Is it posible to do that with the 4watt esec you mention here?

Jesus

[DrStiffler]

@drstiffler
I am not interested on the prize, but I am really interested on using a battery as small as 1.5volts or as big as a 9volt to move a small motor, and at the same time feed some charge to the running battery.
My question is: Is it posible to do that with the 4watt esec you mention here?

Jesus

@nievesoliveras

Not wanting to put my foot in my mouth, I don't know. With a ESEC running with an input of 10V@60mA starting and ending at 10V@20mA in less than 111 seconds charge (30sec to be exact) a 3F cap to 21.09J give or take, so you do the math on what multiple ESEC's or a larger 4W input(start) can do. The figures given are for an ESEC(1) as shown on my web site. One thing to note that is very important is that increasing the voltage on a ESEC(1) will not increase the excess energy. In fact there is a narrow range where the additional capture is found.

Might talk to Ossie on his circuit and see what it will do. As I have stated, my use of the energy has been limited to Heat Production and I have had multiple problems with certain types of batteries.
I have had little success in direct charge of LA and NiCd, although NiMH has shown some promise.

My direction so far is direct conversion to usable DC (direct) or to the production of Heat.

Dr.S.

[nievesoliveras]

@drstiffler

I am new to electronics and its formulas, that by the way are many and intricate. But I have been reading here and on your web site in order to catch on.
Eventually, If the lord so desires, I will learn. In the meantime I will just keep browsing and reading here and there.

Thank you.

Jesus