The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[tishatang]

Hi All,

Moray's device would not work without a ground.  I think Tesla needed a ground for safety because of the high voltage of his coil.

Steven Mark's device worked without a ground!

I think SM found a subtle principle common to both Moray and Tesla but did not need high voltage or a ground to operate.

His remark about related to circumference is another way of saying related to length.  If the coil you want to energize is longer than 1/4 wavelength of the frequency, than standing waves will be created within the length of the coil. 

link:  http://www.ttr.com/corum/ 

     "If the transmitting and receiving coil were made longer than the quarter of the wave-length of the electrical      disturbance in the wire, then the points of highest potential would not fall at the inner ends of the coils ...         as required, but nodal points would form, as the case may be, somewhere in the middle of the coils ..." [Dr.       Nikola Tesla - Selected Patent Wrappers, compiled by J.T. Ratzlaff, Tesla Book Company, 1980, Vol. 1, p.150.

If the top half of the Mark device has standing waves at one freq and the bottom half has standing waves at a slightly different freq, than I think the interence pattern between them will cause rotation?

The flat plates could be the equivalent of the spheres Tesla used to ballast his high voltage coils.

They would radiate and interface with the earth's magnetic field.

The big trick is to get the initial magnet kick to keep oscillating and the rest should be straight forward.

The standing waves in the Tesla coil produced much more voltage than simple resonant circuits.
If Steven is using standing waves ala Tesla, than the initial coil has to be longer than 1/4 wavelength of the
ferromagnetic freq of 175k hertz.  Or, maybe a harmonic above that to keep the length of wire within a reasonable amount.

Tishatang

[gn0stik]

Hi All,

Moray's device would not work without a ground.  I think Tesla needed a ground for safety because of the high voltage of his coil.

Steven Mark's device worked without a ground!

I think SM found a subtle principle common to both Moray and Tesla but did not need high voltage or a ground to operate.

His remark about related to circumference is another way of saying related to length.  If the coil you want to energize is longer than 1/4 wavelength of the frequency, than standing waves will be created within the length of the coil. 

link:  http://www.ttr.com/corum/ 

     "If the transmitting and receiving coil were made longer than the quarter of the wave-length of the electrical      disturbance in the wire, then the points of highest potential would not fall at the inner ends of the coils ...         as required, but nodal points would form, as the case may be, somewhere in the middle of the coils ..." [Dr.       Nikola Tesla - Selected Patent Wrappers, compiled by J.T. Ratzlaff, Tesla Book Company, 1980, Vol. 1, p.150.

If the top half of the Mark device has standing waves at one freq and the bottom half has standing waves at a slightly different freq, than I think the interence pattern between them will cause rotation?

The flat plates could be the equivalent of the spheres Tesla used to ballast his high voltage coils.

They would radiate and interface with the earth's magnetic field.

The big trick is to get the initial magnet kick to keep oscillating and the rest should be straight forward.

The standing waves in the Tesla coil produced much more voltage than simple resonant circuits.
If Steven is using standing waves ala Tesla, than the initial coil has to be longer than 1/4 wavelength of the
ferromagnetic freq of 175k hertz.  Or, maybe a harmonic above that to keep the length of wire within a reasonable amount.

Tishatang

I think you are correct about the size of the coils, what we need to remember here is that the size of the coil/length of wire, determines what frequency the coil itself resonates at. How do we tune a crystal radio? By shorting it at some point along the coil, which effectively shortens the coil and it's resonant frequency, allowing it to resonate with a known frequency. Since Marks claims that his device works like a radio receiver, we need to figure out what frequency to "Tune" into, or make the coil resonant to. Since he claims it get's it's energy from the magnetic field of the earth, we need to figure out the resonant frequency of magnetic flux, which we've done. bob.diroto was saying the resonant frequency of ferrite, that's not exactly correct, although he was giving the correct frequency, we're not looking for the resonant frequency of any element, but MAGNETISM ITSELF (elements have much higher resonant frequencies). This might sound strange, but it's commonly done with digital compasses etc. The sizes of the coils relate to different OCTAVES of those frequencies. We know that electromagnetism is way outside the visible spectrum. So are radio waves, but we tune into those quite easily. Once we have a coil resonant with magnetism, we need to figure out how to induce "kicks" into it. Marks starts the process by agitating the coil with a permanent magnet.

What keeps them building? What causes them to rotate, and thus build the vortex, the earth's rotation? I'm guessing this is, at least in part,  the case.
The earth has a slight wobble to the rotation on it's axis. What happens when you have a ball filled with fluid and you begin to spin it? The fluid, due to conservation of motion, does not spin at the same speed of the ball right away, it has to catch up to it. Once it has caught up however, if the ball begins to spin in different directions, slightly, the fluid will not, those same laws of conservation of motion want to keep it going in the same direction. It will however, have a slight variation in it's currents, due to friction against the core and walls of the ball. Apply this to a ball with an iron core (the earth), and apply a static charge to that fluid(mantle). You've got electro-magnetism. Now what happens when it wobbles after the momentum of that fluid is established? The electro-magnetism fluctuates, due to the currents of the fluid, responding to the wobble. This causes a sort of "beat" to the inductance in the core. Or "Kick".

I don't know how this relates to what Tao is saying, but we've got mulitple, aspects of this thing to think about. I can see how what Tao is saying fits with the "parable" that mannix layed down for us.

[gn0stik]

Notice the part that says the coil is "cut until resonance is established", that makes perfect sense considering the prototype was made of bailing wire. Also the fact that the Mark device is "a low-voltage, low frequency, high-current form of the high-voltage, high frequency, low current Moray device. Each system has its good and bad points.

I see, so I was right about the tuning of the coil via it's length/size. The coil isn't fed a frequency, it's cut/shorted to frequency, as a crystal radio would be. (remember those little sparks when tuning them?)

But you already knew that.

Why you holding out on us man? And what's with the [snip] stuff?

Anyway, I'm beginning to think that I was wrong about Mannix. I think he probably is working with SM now, as your posts suggest. I just thought it was strange that SM would communicate through a 3rd party to begin with. So, Mr. Mannix, and SM, if you read this (I know you will, I know you at least look at the boards, as you were last active today, according to your profile.
), please accept my apologies.

Anyway, I have a feeling, that once we get this built, we will have the tools in our arsenal to figure out other similar technologies, like the Sweet VTA, Moray's devices, Grey's devices, etc. And improve others like the MRA.

I'm still sort of at a loss as to what the other frequencies/coils are for. I know one is an output coil, that's about it.

[bob.diroto]

Hi Tao,

How long ago did you get that private message you got from Mannix/Steven that you generously posted ?

cheers Bob

[gn0stik]

I see, so I was right about the tuning of the coil via it's length/size. The coil isn't fed a frequency, it's cut/shorted to frequency, as a crystal radio would be. (remember those little sparks when tuning them?)

But you already knew that.

Why you holding out on us man? And what's with the [snip] stuff?

I didn't write the '[snip]' stuff, that was already in that email message .

I'm not holding out, I was just remembering old things I saw months ago that could maybe help us now.

I for one wasn't familiar with the sparks from crystal sets, can you explain?

We CAN do this, expecially if Steven could do it with some bailing wire and that less-than-pleasant looking prototype he made. Meaning, he used some spare parts and was able to make this device, I think we should have no problems once we figure out all the pieces and construct a nice diagram as to how this whole thing works.

On some of the crystal radio sets, you have your receiver coil, and how you tune it is you take one end of your antenna wire and short it to the coil. One end of your coil is up the band the other is down the band. The farther up or down the the coil you short it, the farther up or down the band you tune the frequency. As you do this, you can see little sparks.

As I said before it's the original radiant/free energy device.