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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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yfree

Quote from: verpies on April 24, 2013, 02:35:05 AM

Since you are around, I've got two difficult questions for you:
Q1) Why TK's motor videos don't show a flux guiding disks made out of ferromagnetic material of high permeability, sandwiched with the brass disks ?
Q2) How can the secondary (inner rotating part) of the rotary transformer pick up the HF pulses if it is enclosed in a steel shaft that has strong shielding properties.

P.S.
The skin depth of plain steel is 60μm at 100kHz (assuming relative permeability of steel equal to 100).
Note that Q2 is not a question how the stationary primary is wound (the toroid) - we can assume a circumferential winding concealed under the ordinary toroidal winding.

TK videos have to be looked at with an attitude: You do not get what you see.
The appearance of the magnetic steel part of the disk comes, most probably, from plating with copper or brass. This had to be done for bonding purposes; to bond the brass disks to the steel flanges. One of the brass disks is slightly chipped on the perimeter. This hints that there are at least two different materials in the flange/disk arrangement.

The axle past the ball-bearing does not have to be made of magnetic steel at all. It can be made very thin out of non-magnetic steel, for instance. When the winding inside is on the transformer alloy core or ferrite, the coupling of RF (~100 kHz) will still be strong. On the other hand, the coil cover can be made of a material that only looks like metal, e.g. silver painted plastic.

verpies

Quote from: Farmhand on April 24, 2013, 08:51:41 AM
So it could go like this - a large electric motor has a steel disc with a rubber or even shark toothed circumference, this entire setup could rotate slightly when loaded so that the either the rubber circumference drives a disc which in turn drives the big rotor by gears or belt, or the toothed circumference could mesh into a rubberized drive gear or something, then when power is cut the assembly swings back away and allows the big rotor to freewheel.
Why complicate it like this?  Remember Occam's Razor.
Wouldn't it be much less work to propel the shaft with a belt drive marked in yellow in the diagram below?
Also, don't you find Hoppy's Bedini Motor idea even simpler than that?

Hoppy

Quote from: cheappower2012 on April 24, 2013, 04:14:29 AM
Hoopy
I believe that the active device powers the motor and the lamps,there maybe a big battery to start it,once started the active device  powers everything.However its hidden so its a dead end.

C'mon you're aving a laugh! What's the point in hiding an OU black box and start battery and showing a strange disc motor that's just eye candy. Its obvious that both the large and small motor enclosures have more than enough space in their hollow bottoms to house enough batteries and other necessary components to run the whole show without the OU black box. Why not just put the start battery (even if it is big) and OU black box into clear sight,  start the motor and then disconnect the battery during the demo. With the obvious huge hidey-hole gone, surely this would be more convincing as a demo. TK very likely saw the folly of having excessive 'black hole' space in both his motor demos, once the shouts of 'fake' came in, which prompted him to construct a more ingenious setup as seen in the aqua2 video. OK, he still has some 'black box' space but it does look more convincing as a self-runner. He could have hidden himself in the ali boxing sitting on top of the car tyres!!

Grumage

Good evening to all.

After a great deal of thought regarding this device I have one final idea that I know will not sit well with Verpies!! I still think that the drive is transmitted via the shaft where the toroid sits.

I feel it would be possible to place one or more single phase Shaded pole motor "cores" and then cover them in cardboard and a final serving of copper wire to finish the illusion. The end of the shaft could be placed into a dividing head and a series of holes drilled near to the outside diameter. Said holes then filled with copper rods to create a Squirrel cage. The shaft end being suitably disguised with an end cover to finish. This would then fit the two wire criteria as well. Your argument about the torque reqired to turn the shaft is accepted but IMO there is little torque applied. That is why it takes so long for the assembly to reach full speed.

Moving on. So the explanation for the 220 V 3 phase output was for excitation of the large alternator? Well in all my career I have never met a Stator AC excited alternator. But I did look it up and I believe that recently there are some machines that work this way. But surely that machine looks quite an old one and would be either slip ring or brushless, relying on residual magnetization of the machine to start the process of generation.

Well there is my "Cunning Plan" Hoppy should get that one!! :) Now waiting for the firing squad :)

Dear Verpies, I for one have got a little tired of going round in circles!! If I get some time when the weather "bucks up" I might have a go at a demo!! But, not now. Back on the NMR front. You gave me the Info of 7112 Hz per Gauss. So times three, 21336 Hz equals 3 Gauss. This frequency should be within the range of my 40 W audio amp.
What I have got in mind is to create a Nylon cylinder that can take through it's center a Glass syringe that will contain my prepared copper fileings. The outside diameter having two bobbin like grooves to create a Hemholtz coil arrangement. You suggested you may be able to give me a turns ratio for the field strength required?

Now one final question. If NMR is the MO of the TK, I call it the Kitchen roll holder coil. How do you think the perpendicular magnetic field is created?  When clearly all the coils are concentric.

Cheers to you, and all Grum.

verpies

Quote from: Grumage on April 24, 2013, 03:38:29 PM
Now one final question. If NMR is the MO of the TK, I call it the Kitchen roll holder coil. How do you think the perpendicular magnetic field is created?  When clearly all the coils are concentric.
A very astute observation and a good question.  TK's motor has only one coil (for RF).  The static polarizing field is generated by a stack of ring permanent magnets on a fiberglass shaft (inside the coil).
I could write an essay about the low permeability of magnets (like air) and magnetic lines of flux repelling each other but the magnetic simulation below should substitute for it.
The magnetic field created by the green coil is not shown due to my laziness, but it would curve out of the ends of the coil and be vertical in the Gain Medium region, if the shaft has low permeability (like air or fiberglass or permanent magnets ...yeees PMs have the same permeability as air).