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UFO politics Keeps his word 12-12 12 Let the games begin.......

Started by ramset, December 13, 2012, 08:15:14 AM

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ramset

MH
I don't know how I missed your post ?,But I honestly did...
{the Rob situation really bothers me]

Regarding these builds ,the wheels are turning,UPS is delivering ,Anticipation /expectations are rising And Mr. UFO is quite confident in his systems capabilities.

To not rush the next "showing" until he has all his ducks in a row is wise at this time.
And Yes I do believe the test protocol will be quite definitive  ,which would be Mandatory
to sustain his OU claims amounst the highly skilled critics that frequent these forums.[a good thing].

Thx
Chet
PS
I see things are getting a bit fiesty over there,"Red flag abuse" to moderator reports.

Whats a moderator?

I  think I heard of these moderators, they lived a long time ago ,and used to  Quell uprisings and such in a time when men were less civil to each other..... They have long since moved on to enjoy their lives frolicking around in Campers and such.

Perhaps they are not as evolved over there ?

Wonder if they do steel cage matches too ?

HHmmm
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

picowatt

Quote from: mikestocks2006 on December 18, 2012, 10:38:29 PM
In this video: Mecc Alte 6KVA Generator head  (00:26 time stamp or about)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RPsgcgmt3M&list=UUdmFG5BeS0YnD2b5zasXXng&index=1
From Mecc Alte site:
http://www.meccalte.com/index.php?s=173&VAin=3&VAin_prec=3&FHz_prec=60&FHz=60&giri_prec=3600&giri=3600&monotri_prec=1&monotri=1&TenVacmono=&IP_value_prec=21&IP_value=21&ClasseHF=H&step=6

The ECP3-1S/2
Is what comes up when using 6KVA power required. And 3600 rpm
The DS (DataSheet click on the tab for pdf) shows Voltage regulation min -5% to + 30% or the recommended rpm.
also
http://www.general-files.com/download/gs55bf0df0h32i0/ecp3_1s2.pdf.html
"Regulation with DSR ±1 % with any power factor and speed variations between -5% +30%"
So at -32% speed variation, what would be the voltage? Would the regulator be able to handle it? Drop to lower value?

Thanks
Mike


I found several current and obsolete 2 pole (3600 RPM) gens at that rating on their site.  As others over there are ordering/obtaining  these heads someone surely has an exactmodel number.  Maybe as I read I will run into it. 

That quoted -5% is at any load and power factor and at 1% regulation, so that would not necessarily be the lower RPM limit for a 2kw load.

Of course it would not be all that difficult for the OP over their to stick an additional voltmeter on his test rig to measure it!


I must have missed some drama, but I too am sorry to see EA go...

PW

TinselKoala

Um... I'm trying, I really am...... and I'm only on Page 101.  but here's one quote from UFOPolitics where he computes an output power from his readings:
Quote
Output

Four Lamps at 120V
Amperage: 41 A

Output Watts: (120X41)=4920 Watts

And in the quote below I see that he and another poster are having a rather profound misunderstanding of the relationship between current, voltage, resistance, and power.
Quote
Originally Posted by machinealive (http://www.energeticforum.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif)  If you have 12 watt light, with 12 v and 1amp.

If you lower the voltage,  amps will go up if there is a source to draw from, to give same 12 watts.
if you lower the volts, watts out will go down if there is no source to provide extra current,why would amps not stay the same, or decrease? therefore less then 12 watts, and light dims.
(emphasis mine)

And UFOPolitics agrees, and goes on to "explain" the relationships in Ohm's Law.............


If you lower the voltage, amps will go up if there is a source to draw from, to give the same 12 watts. Is there anyone reading +here+ that agrees with that statement?



MileHigh

PW, TK:

It looks like the over unity claim has blown over.  This notion of modifying perfectly good electric motors to "improve" on them is an old recurring theme.  UFO made a big impression on many people but I am pretty sure with some close scrutiny and proper analysis that there would be a few surprises for the believers.

In my mind's eye I can imagine making a series of YT clips called "Demystifying 'Radiant' Energy."  That would be of great benefit to the free energy community and would help many and justifiably knock the wind out of the sails of others.

MileHigh

Ian Koglin

Quote from: mikestocks2006 on December 18, 2012, 10:38:29 PM
In this video: Mecc Alte 6KVA Generator head  (00:26 time stamp or about)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RPsgcgmt3M&list=UUdmFG5BeS0YnD2b5zasXXng&index=1
From Mecc Alte site:
http://www.meccalte.com/index.php?s=173&VAin=3&VAin_prec=3&FHz_prec=60&FHz=60&giri_prec=3600&giri=3600&monotri_prec=1&monotri=1&TenVacmono=&IP_value_prec=21&IP_value=21&ClasseHF=H&step=6

The ECP3-1S/2
Is what comes up when using 6KVA power required. And 3600 rpm
The DS (DataSheet click on the tab for pdf) shows Voltage regulation min -5% to + 30% or the recommended rpm.
also
http://www.general-files.com/download/gs55bf0df0h32i0/ecp3_1s2.pdf.html
"Regulation with DSR ±1 % with any power factor and speed variations between -5% +30%"
So at -32% speed variation, what would be the voltage? Would the regulator be able to handle it? Drop to lower value?

Thanks
Mike


G'Day Mike
In the first video you mentioned UFO is showing how he is modifying the mecc Alte Generator head that he purchased
This generator is S16W 130/2 5Kva that is a 1 bearing Job dedigned with a short shaft that has an female taper to the end where it is designed
to marry up to another either Petrol or diesel  motor that has a mating shaft to match with the Mecc Alte gen head

I purchased a new Mecc Alte gen head that has a parallel shaft keyed and therefore has 2 bearings
As I progress with my builds I will keep all you here posted

Kindest Regards
Kogs