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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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rickfriedrich

Obviously such people realized that your Void presumptions were nonsense. Because obviously OU is more than just self-looping. What if people want another form of output? What if I have a primary OU system that is powering another that is not self-looped because it doesn't need to be in that case and which is producing another useful form of energy? Is this not OU? You are just rambling nonsense because you have no experience in these things and real-world systems. I talk to engineers and people at the cutting edge of technology all around the world about all forms of energy production and trying to help solve existing problems. There are so many situations that do not require self-looping and yet are OU in fact. So this is just foolish. What if people only need hybrid systems where they already have continuous but limited power source and just need an amplification while needing a motor to run as well? Anyway, your are just trying to limit reality and control what people think and do. You are taking this forum far to seriously. It is just a bunch of guys trading ideas. You are making it out to be something way more. If you wasted time on someone's claim that is your fault and not some person making a claim. The problem is not what is not shown but the problem I have been putting my finger on, PRESUMPTION, ASSUMPTION, PREJUDICE. Why don't you peach against that? It is because you live by that. Spend your time telling people not to believe claims for or against OU. Don't tell us how to be Void and presumptuous like this.

Quote from: Void on July 12, 2019, 06:49:21 PM
Some people are under the mistaken notion that if someone is a PH. D. in Physics,
they must automatically have a good practical knowledge in electronics or mechanics.
That is not necessarily the case at all however.

Dr. Stiffler made a very obvious mistake in his approach. He ignored the first and second laws
of 'over unity' testing as outlined above, and in my opinion he lead himself and others down the garden path. He could have easily avoided doing that and saved himself and various other experimenters a lot of wasted time and effort if he had simply heeded the first and second laws of 'over unity' circuit testing. A self-looped arrangement would have quickly shown that his circuit arrangements were not capable of self-sustaining, and therefore probably not showing a COP >1.

a.king21

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 12, 2019, 08:19:00 AM
I just asked one question.

But I'm sure the readers here will note that almost everything you say about my demonstration also applies to yours.


Is this system OU?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNzbc-N-e9c
Hi Tinsel  good to see you here . Makes a change from reading your posts (correctly) dissing the Earth engine fiasco on Disqus.
https://disqus.com/by/disqus_ztbFmjSU6Q/


So I have a question for you....
Remember that "special" circuit I sent you - a number of years ago.
You know...  the one which downed your cctv system and which downed my internet.


Why haven't you done a video on THAT.


I know why...and so do you.

rickfriedrich

Hey B,
This is good to hear. As for your situation there are a thousands things I could say. This is probably best to call me up so we can go back and forth on the details. The first thing probably is to go back to what you had initially and make careful observations. The second thing to consider is that the old setups could have partially damaged transistors. I have almost certainty that many people who got poor results had such because they had that. It is easy to forget to hook the charging battery. And the switching can still work but it is now possibly damaged. Or some experiment was done it was damaged. I have worked with many people only to find that was the case. Because almost everyone thinks everything is ok unless it is a full smoked transistor. The next thing is to realize that the trigger coil setups were problematic in that the impedance keeps changing with batteries. So unless you get things right on as in the video it will wander off (as you can see when the second 100W was added input battery voltage went up and he had to adjust the pot slightly).

Now I am not disclosing anything about the ideal setup other than what I have shared on this thread by pointing to the sources where you can see your options. This is something people have to work for. My policy is that I don't give out part numbers (for one reason as that people end up buying them out) and this ideal system actually crosses the line. All I planned on doing was giving the basics so that people can multiply the outputs enough times for their needs.

Stay tuned as I will do a completely free, literally using that word in the domain, website like I did with potentialtec.com over the years. I will see about adding more detail there if it is appropriate.

One thing to look at with those old setups is placing a 100W LED module in series with the charging battery and tell me if it really lights up or is relatively faint. Or check the collector and emitter with the scope when you are charging a sulfated battery with little capacity. Tell me what the voltage is? We are looking to see the effects of suitable impulsing. This is all before the other questions. Well looking again at what you wrote that should be fine. You can remove the capacitors with the inductors and try some different arrangements... Again, you can call sometime and we can go over exactly what you have there.

Quote from: baudirenergie on July 12, 2019, 07:39:02 PM
Hi Rick,
I have a question about series impedance in pulsemotor setups and would be very happy, if you can give me a tip what I can do. My situation is, that I was able to replicate the zero voltage process, that my Voltage on the source battery stands still a long time, and my motor runs the hole time and Lights were on. No doubt, I know it works. It was simply trail end error with different impedance, and after a lot of hours I had it. After that I was switching complete to the resonance kit and never tried the zero voltage process on pulsemotor setups again.
In the last two days it was my goal, to do it again with different small fans and bedini style motors from old days and also transformers and coils from scrap, but I struggled more then I was exepted. I had some outputs and LEDs for free, but didn't find the perfect matching anymore. Had tried to use one of the free outputs (secondary transfomer side) to loop back via rectifier to the source battery, but in my understanding it is not the right way.
My Question is: is there some tricks, that helps to find a good impedance matching. In resonance kit it is no problem for my, to get many outputs for free. You showed the tuning via variac, so I had tried small variable transformers from model railways. It helps but was not the best for my small Fans. 
Some things I have also tried:
- Tryed to reach Zero Voltage over the loads (AC and DC). I know this is only a indication that should help, not exact measurement.
- Added the biggest Transformers with large Wire diameter first, then the other Transformers that had -for example- higher Coil resistance.
- Added one transformer and matched it best I can, then I moved to the next one and also tryed to tune it.
- Used big 110AH Battery on the end.
- Used small 7Ah as Source.
- I used good low resistance labratory cables to connect everything.
- Tryed to add capacitors on every impedance that matches the frequency of the negative pulse (I used online calculator).
- If neon bulb (protection over transistor, I don't know the exact word for that) lits to much, I removed the last added impedance or tried to tune it better with capacitor in parallel.

Is there something more, that I can do to find a better matching? Can I tune the impedances via oscilloscope? Do you have shown something like that in one of your videos? If so, I can't remember, where I can find it.

Thanks a lot for all your posts, Videos and comments Rick !!!! .

TinselKoala

Quote from: rickfriedrich on July 12, 2019, 01:36:38 PM
If you were following what I have been saying over the last 3 weeks you would see that I agree with that. I do not try and prove anything with a video. But this means that you cannot disprove anything with a video as well.
The big difference with your setup and mine is that you were using 300ma to power three tiny leds and I was using 60 and 80ma powering 90 LEDs and also that I could have easily 500. I also had witnesses who are actually reading this forum right now. But again, you can't prove anything over the internet, which is what I titled the video showing this.
No, that's not the "big difference" at all.  The "Big Difference" is that I provided good, repeatable measurements and I showed all my work to derive the result. I've shown the power in the reactive loop of my apparatus is many times over the input power. Later videos in that particular series demonstrate the Transverter, an apparatus to convert the reactive power VARs into real power in Watts, to drive motors, incandescent bulbs and high voltage spark gaps, while simultaneously powering LEDs.  And I present my work in fully replicable manner. I do not expect anyone to accept "proof over the internet" -- just assemble the circuits, follow the protocols and see what happens.

OK, so maybe that's not what you mean by OU, and maybe you don't like reactive power, even though that is what your system is based on.  And Itsu is perfectly correct about the phase shift, as I also explained in later vids in that series.

But you didn't even say a word about the other two videos I asked about. The Partzman Bifilar Transformer produces clear and unambiguous OU measurements, even taking into account the phase difference between current and voltage through the load, and shows input power decreasing as a further load is added by inductive pickup. Is it OU?
And the TinMan Bifilar LED circuit shines its 4 LEDs brilliantly with ZERO CURRENT indicated on meters monitoring both legs of the input power. Zero milliamps, even zero microamps. Is it OU?

I'm just trying to figure out what kind of OU you are selling, Rick, since it can't be self-looped, it can't be daisy chained, it can't be accumulated in a battery or a capacitor, and the properly measured outputs never actually exceed the inputs. All three of the demonstrations I've provided illustrate different aspects of inductive wireless power transmission, resonance phenomena and measurement protocols and pitfalls. And all three provide OU measurements, exhibit behaviours similar to your device and make various points that relate directly to your system.
I know you've been doing this a long time. In fact the first time I remember you is from the Mylow days. Where is that video clip of Bedini standing in the background, and someone who looks a lot like you in the foreground, spinning a "Mylow Magnet Motor" and shouting out "IT WORKS! IT WORKS !!!" Oh well... we all make mistakes.
Quote from: a.king21 on July 12, 2019, 09:13:24 PM
Hi Tinsel  good to see you here . Makes a change from reading your posts (correctly) dissing the Earth engine fiasco on Disqus.
https://disqus.com/by/disqus_ztbFmjSU6Q/

So I have a question for you....
Remember that "special" circuit I sent you - a number of years ago.
You know...  the one which downed your cctv system and which downed my internet.

Why haven't you done a video on THAT.

I know why...and so do you.
No, actually I have no idea what circuit you are talking about. Messed up my cctv? Sorry, I can't recall. Can you give me more details?Just about any High Voltage E-field emitter will do that though, with these crappy unshielded USB extension cables. I can whip up something for you in a few minutes if you really need a CCTV/WIFI disruptor.  I have lots of devices I don't dare operate inside the house, the EEEE being one of them. Yes, it is still in the wings waiting for the right time to debut.



a.king21

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 12, 2019, 10:04:34 PM
No, actually I have no idea what circuit you are talking about. Messed up my cctv? Sorry, I can't recall. Can you give me more details?Just about any High Voltage E-field emitter will do that though, with these crappy unshielded USB extension cables. I can whip up something for you in a few minutes if you really need a CCTV/WIFI disruptor.  I have lots of devices I don't dare operate inside the house, the EEEE being one of them. Yes, it is still in the wings waiting for the right time to debut.
It was the circuit from the Ukrainian Government's Agricultural institute based in Kiev. It was a replication of only a part of a Don Smith circuit.  It kept blowing bulbs and they concluded that this required further study.  It was performed by a PHD student for his exams and supervised by the appropriate professor.