RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite

[hoptoad]

I agree with you that it is the power stored in the inductor. But this stored energy is ordinarily wasted by clamping the motor coil to itself. I didnt know that that energy was of any use. I thought that it couldnt charge batteries since it was just a high voltage spike with very little current. Standard theory says that batteries only charge from actual electron flow and that voltage plays a very small part. In the case of the bedini motor the voltage seems to play the majority part and amperage a small part in the charging of the secondary batteries. I am not really going to quibble with bedini or those types as to whether it is "free energy" or not, but they initially opened up my eyes to bigger and beter things. I have since move quite a bit beyond those intro motors.

Chad

The high voltage spike from the collapsing magnetic field still results in a small amount of current into a load. It is current not voltage that charges up the battery. Batteries are charge accumulators not voltage accumulators. A voltage (pressure) is still necessary however, to make the current flow.

In conventional circuits that use pulse width modulation to control the speed of a motor (such as electric trams, trains etc), the energy from the collapsing field is re-used. It is not re-used to charge up another circuit or battery, instead it is recirculated through the driving motor to add torque to the motor during the off period of the pulse. It is not wasted !

Cheers from Hoptoad

[chadj2]

Like I said Hoptoad I am not gonna argue as to whether it is free energy or not. You are free to believe that there is no such thing as free energy in your world I wont try to take that away from you. We will probably always disagree on the topic of free energy. The bottom line is that I am happy that Bedini, Beardon and Lindemann helped me to see things I would not have ordinarily looked at without their so called "scams".

Chad

[hoptoad]

Like I said Hoptoad I am not gonna argue as to whether it is free energy or not. You are free to believe that there is no such thing as free energy in your world I wont try to take that away from you. We will probably always disagree on the topic of free energy. The bottom line is that I am happy that Bedini, Beardon and Lindemann helped me to see things I would not have ordinarily looked at without their so called "scams".

Chad

We are surrounded by free energy in the form of wind, sunshine, tidal, hydro-gravitic potential and geothermal energy. There may be all sorts of other "free" energy sources available to us, including ZPE, and with the correct technology we may be able to utilize them, but I don't rely on simple beliefs to validate their existence.

I prefer scientific investigation and hard evidence gathered together with empirical measurement. If you have learnt something from Bedini and Bearden et al, and you're happy with what you've learned, then good for you. I certainly don't want to take that away from you or any one else.

Cheers

[chadj2]

Ive argued with people like yourself before and it is fruitless. We can never come to a consensus. It is always claimed as measurement error or surface charge or some other thing. Never willing to "waste their time" actually doing the experiment. We most likely have completely different worldviews. I have a great distrust of governments and I have a great distrust of coorporations working in the best interest of all humanity. I also dont have such great faith in all of the theoretical science that we have placed on such a high pedestal. I have learned so much more through actual experimentation and reading very old electrical books from the late 1800s and early 1900s when scientists did actual experiments and published strange results. Also, keeping in mind the tremendous resistance to new ideas of the scientific establishment. So quick to write every claim off as a hoax. So the bottom line is that in my worldview I see these new ideas as having tremendous hurdles to get over and most likely their ideas will be killed one way or another even if they are valid. That is what got me to experimenting in the first place. So anyways we obviously see the world in completely different ways so the probability that we are going to agree is very low.

Chad

[hoptoad]

Never willing to "waste their time" actually doing the experiment.
Chad

When I was young and impressionable, I believed in a lot of things, even when the hard evidence was lacking. Twenty years of actual hands on experimenting, investing thousands of hours of time, persistent labour and a significant amount of my own money has changed all that.

If you like learning about anomolous curiosities, perhaps you may wish to "do an experiment", like the one on page 10 of my website which was posted some time ago in response to calls for help from some of the other forum members who were experimenting with Adam's motors at the time.

http://www.totallyamped.net/adams

Cheers